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Old October 27th, 2013, 08:13 PM   #61
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You posted it, just wondering if you knew it. There is more evidence that shows there is more of a connection from vaccines.
No, no there is not. .


This is just another example of how misinformed you are.
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Organic foods don't make autistic children


Liberal hippie organic food consuming douchebags make autistic children.
My kids are not autistic.
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My kids are not autistic.
Didn't say 'all'

point is, data can be used to support nearly any position with selective inclusion (or exclusion)
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Old October 27th, 2013, 09:07 PM   #64
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No, no there is not. .


This is just another example of how misinformed you are.
Or just how gullable you are.
Did you know that in the Amish community there is no cases of autism because they do not immunize their kids.
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Or just how gullable you are.
Did you know that in the Amish community there is no cases of autism because they do not immunize their kids.
Serious;y, how could you tell if an Amish person was autistic?
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Or just how gullable you are.
Did you know that in the Amish community there is no cases of autism because they do not immunize their kids.
How about citing actual evidence instead of heresay.

Although, I'd be curious to find out how many Amish people get their children tested for autism.
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How about citing actual evidence instead of heresay.

Although, I'd be curious to find out how many Amish people get their children tested for autism.
I've not responded any more to the discussion as I have deemed this a lost cause. As you said earlier, it would be funny if not so sad.

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If a pirate ate organic food and had an autistic kid would that lead to an increase or decrease in global warming?
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Old October 27th, 2013, 11:47 PM   #69
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Or just how gullable you are.
Did you know that in the Amish community there is no cases of autism because they do not immunize their kids.
neither is absolutely true.

There are Amish with autism, and some Amish immunize there kids.

https://imfar.confex.com/imfar/2010/...Paper7336.html

Both immunization and autism rates are lower in Amish communities, but it doesn't prove cause and effect. You could just as easily say riding in cars or having electricity in your house causes autism.
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neither is absolutely true.

There are Amish with autism, and some Amish immunize there kids.

https://imfar.confex.com/imfar/2010/...Paper7336.html

Both immunization and autism rates are lower in Amish communities, but it doesn't prove cause and effect. You could just as easily say riding in cars or having electricity in your house causes autism.
I think you're onto something. There appears to be a connection between internet access and autism.
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No, no there is not. .
Well you and Bruce can poke at me because I don't have "proof" I can cite but I agree with you.

Having a wife who has been in the field of Autism for over 20 years and now works as a consultant on the subject, I don't have documentation, only her verbal opinion. Vaccines are only one of several theories on the cause on Autism and there is no proven answer at this time. Bottom line, they still don't know the cause or solution.
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Old October 28th, 2013, 06:54 AM   #72
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Well you and Bruce can poke at me because I don't have "proof" I can cite but I agree with you.

Having a wife who has been in the field of Autism for over 20 years and now works as a consultant on the subject, I don't have documentation, only her verbal opinion. Vaccines are only one of several theories on the cause on Autism and there is no proven answer at this time. Bottom line, they still don't know the cause or solution.
well, Jim, in this case, you're perfectly ok, saying to someone who says that vaccines cause autism, "I don't believe you because you haven't provided sufficient evidence." You aren't purporting a claim, just responding to theirs.

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If a pirate ate organic food and had an autistic kid would that lead to an increase or decrease in global warming?
you would never see a pirate do that.
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Are you guys talking about internet pirates?
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I think you're onto something. There appears to be a connection between internet access and autism.
It seems that a lot of people with internet access have some type of mental handicap.
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That's why Africa is such a brain powerhouse.
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Well you and Bruce can poke at me because I don't have "proof" I can cite but I agree with you.

Having a wife who has been in the field of Autism for over 20 years and now works as a consultant on the subject, I don't have documentation, only her verbal opinion. Vaccines are only one of several theories on the cause on Autism and there is no proven answer at this time. Bottom line, they still don't know the cause or solution.
Sounds like you know more about it than I do so I'll take your word for it.

The few articles I found about Amish and autism seemed to lack scientific credibility. People going out with a conclusion and looking for anecdotes to back it up, rather than careful study of data leading to a conclusion.
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I asked her this morning about it. She kinda shook her head and said there are all sorts of theories but no one has ever found anything for sure. It's still a mystery, at least at the educational level.

There is also a theory that a mother's diet before birth causes it.
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I also remember hearing that living near high voltage power lines has been blamed, but again never proven.

And anyone of these could explain the lower rates among the Amish, or it could be just genetics.
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