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Old October 31st, 2013, 11:16 PM   #21
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Old October 31st, 2013, 11:40 PM   #22
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Calibers are .300 one in Ultra mag the other in Win mag


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how about a savage model 110 chambered in 7mm rem mag? I can give pics and price if interested.
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Been reloading for the last cpl years. I'm on the road a lot n can still find em out west too
With guns on the mind I read this

"Been reloading for the last concealed pistol license years."
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Old November 1st, 2013, 09:02 PM   #25
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Jesus, if you're going to try to give a lesson at least know what you're talking about. "30 caliber" has a nominal diameter of 0.308" and 270 0.277". Also a 270 does not have "substantially more energy than a 308 down range"
I went to the cabinet and pulled out some boxes and have them setting on my lap reading from the ballistic chart printed on the back.

Federal 270 130 grain at 400 yard velocity 2110 Ft-Lbs Energy 1285
Federal 30-06 150 grain at 400 yard velocity 1840 Ft-Lbs Energy 1125
Federal 308 150 grain at 400 yard velocity 1770 Ft-Lbs Energy 1045
Winchester power max 308 150 grain at 400 yard velocity 1808 Ft-Lbs Energy 1089

that is 14.31% more velocity
that is 15.2% more Ft-Lbs of Energy

In ballistics that is huge, so shut the fukc up because you do not know what you are talking about I have documented proof from the manufacturer.
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Old November 1st, 2013, 09:03 PM   #26
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Please compare apples to apples.
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Compare until your heart is content. He is right.

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I have a 338 Edge build I will let go of. If you are interested I can get you some specs and pics....
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how about a savage model 110 chambered in 7mm rem mag? I can give pics and price if interested.
Yes. Very interested. Been trying to get hold of another savage on here but can't get a reply. Please email pics to farrerandawayventures@yahoo.com
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Would you like me to get out my reloading books and post more proof of what Doug is saying?
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I went to the cabinet and pulled out some boxes and have them setting on my lap reading from the ballistic chart printed on the back.

Federal 270 130 grain at 400 yard velocity 2110 Ft-Lbs Energy 1285
Federal 30-06 150 grain at 400 yard velocity 1840 Ft-Lbs Energy 1125
Federal 308 150 grain at 400 yard velocity 1770 Ft-Lbs Energy 1045
Winchester power max 308 150 grain at 400 yard velocity 1808 Ft-Lbs Energy 1089

that is 14.31% more velocity
that is 15.2% more Ft-Lbs of Energy

In ballistics that is huge, so shut the fukc up because you do not know what you are talking about I have documented proof from the manufacturer.
I guess it depends on what boxes your reading ?


Ballistics examples for most popular bullet weight in each Caliber
Caliber: .270 Winchester
Bullet Weight and Type: 130 grain Federal Trophy Bonded Tip
Distance Yards Zero 100 200 300 400 500
Velocity fps 3060 2840 2630 2430 2240 2060
Energy Ft.-lbs. 2705 2330 2000 1710 1455 1230
Bullet Drop (inches) Zero +1.4 Zero -6.4 -18.7 -38.0
Source: Federal Premium Ammunition
Suggested Application: antelope, deer, sheep, caribou, elk

Caliber: .30-06 Springfield
Bullet Weight and Type: 180 gr. Nosler Partition
Distance Yards Zero 100 200 300 400 500
Velocity fps: 2700 2510 2330 2160 2000 1840
Energy Ft.-Lbs 2915 2525 2175 1865 1590 1350
Bullet Drop (inches) Zero +2.0 Zero -8.3- -23.8 -47.4
Source: Federal Premium Ammunition
Suggested Application: elk, moose, bear
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Hornady has the most advanced rifle ammunition available right now, of course you can hand load way beyond SAMMI sec, but the controlled burn powder that Hornady has really adds velocity to the round, Here are the numbers inserted from the Hornady Superformance 308 rounds.

Velocity (fps) / Energy (ft-lbs)
Muzzle 100 200 300 400 500
3000/2997 2772/2558 2555/2173 2348/1836 2151/1540 1963/1282

The numbers I placed in the post above, are from the cheapest Federal rounds I bought from Meijer. The Horniday Superformance in 308 will not out perform the cheap shit 270 from Meijer

remember we are discussing 308 / 270

06 was included for reference, although 270 will outperform 06 under certain conditions, certainly in velocity.

270 and 06 both with 150 grain slug (rare in 270) the 270 outperforms 30-06 every time
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Old November 2nd, 2013, 10:39 AM   #33
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Found two giggles so far. Still looking for more!!!
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Hornady has the most advanced rifle ammunition available right now, of course you can hand load way beyond SAMMI sec, but the controlled burn powder that Hornady has really adds velocity to the round, Here are the numbers inserted from the Hornady Superformance 308 rounds.

Velocity (fps) / Energy (ft-lbs)
Muzzle 100 200 300 400 500
3000/2997 2772/2558 2555/2173 2348/1836 2151/1540 1963/1282

The numbers I placed in the post above, are from the cheapest Federal rounds I bought from Meijer. The Horniday Superformance in 308 will not out perform the cheap shit 270 from Meijer

remember we are discussing 308 / 270

06 was included for reference, although 270 will outperform 06 under certain conditions, certainly in velocity.

270 and 06 both with 150 grain slug (rare in 270) the 270 outperforms 30-06 every time
It really depends on your definition of " out performing " is . Velocity although very important is only part of the whole picture.


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Picking 2 random loadings in each caliber isn't a fair comparison. You can skew the results either way. I just looked up load data for the 2 most common bullet weights in each caliber from Barnes, a 130 gr .277 TTSX @ 3100 fps (roughly the max published per their load data) and a 165 gr .308 TTSX @ 2730 fps (also roughly the max per their load data). At 500 yards the 270 has 1140 lb-ft of energy and the 308 has 1190 lb-ft. I'm not dogging the 270, it's a great caliber. Inside 500 yards they are pretty equivalent and past 500 yards there are a lot better cartridges than either of them.

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I'm still looking. Also in the market for muzzle loaders and semi auto hand guns. Nothing fancy just decent carry pieces. No 9 mms tho. Looking for .40 and larger
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Muzzleloader my buddy has. It is still for sale. He is looking for $400. Pm me if you want his number.
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Still looking. Would like to find 50 cal muzzle loader under $250 handgun budget of $350 maybe more for the right piece.
My 98 Grand Cherokee is for sale. Would trade for a collection of guns


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Interested in a Knight MK85 in .54 caliber with a 1.5-6x Bushnell scope for $250?
Blued, laminated wood stock, Williams open sights, factory ported barrel.
Bought new early 1990s. Still have box and tools

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Interested in a Knight MK85 in .54 caliber with a 1.5-6x Bushnell scope for $250?
Blued, laminated wood stock, Williams open sights, factory ported barrel.
Bought new early 1990s. Still have box and tools

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Can I get some pics? Text to 6162552355 thanks
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