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Old October 22nd, 2013, 08:21 PM   #21
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I never said I wouldn't ride a bike with forward controls for safety reasons. I said that mids offer better control.

There is a reason why I'm asking about it, I wanted to find out if it was a bad idea. It sounds like it probably is.
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Old October 22nd, 2013, 08:21 PM   #22
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My wife has DD a Wrangler since 99. First a '97, then an '03. Both had a 2" lift with 31s, so not quite as lifted as you are looking at. She gets about 16-17 MPG consistently. It would be hard to get her to drive anything else.
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Old October 22nd, 2013, 08:24 PM   #23
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I never said I wouldn't ride a bike with forward controls for safety reasons. I said that mids offer better control.

There is a reason why I'm asking about it, I wanted to find out if it was a bad idea. It sounds like it probably is.
I was using this as an excuse to point out that you are a complete vagina

In all seriousness I told Jill she couldn't drive the jeep when snow was on the ground. She doesn't have her car in Colorado right now so the tj is her only transportation until we get back to the mitten.
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Old October 22nd, 2013, 08:34 PM   #24
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I was using this as an excuse to point out that you are a complete vagina

In all seriousness I told Jill she couldn't drive the jeep when snow was on the ground. She doesn't have her car in Colorado right now so the tj is her only transportation until we get back to the mitten.
whatever man. I'm sure you ride your bike with forward controls super aggressively while looking like you're in the stirrups at the OBGYN.

In all seriousness, I've found a few reasonable LJ's on c-list and SS yours are duly noted.

If anybody is interested in a nice TJ here's the ad for the Jeep we were looking at. 15k miles.

http://centralmich.craigslist.org/cto/4139701510.html
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whatever man. I'm sure you ride your bike with forward controls super aggressively while looking like you're in the stirrups at the OBGYN.

In all seriousness, I've found a few reasonable LJ's on c-list and SS yours are duly noted.

If anybody is interested in a nice TJ here's the ad for the Jeep we were looking at. 15k miles.

http://centralmich.craigslist.org/cto/4139701510.html
It's called being tall and wanting to be comfortable and no, I generally drive like a grandpa.
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Old October 22nd, 2013, 09:28 PM   #26
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SS, I pm'ed you.
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Old October 22nd, 2013, 11:40 PM   #27
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It's doable but not always enjoyable. A hardtop should be a requirement for much of the year. A soft top is tough to beat for the summer but really isn't fun when you do have the top up. 33s aren't too bad as long as it's geared right(4.10s are a pretty good middle ground) and the front end parts aren't all blown out(steering, track bar, etc). My 57 year old mom has been DDing a 2006 TJ Unlimited since new and has zero complaints.....but the hardtop, hard doors, auto, and longer wheelbase definitely make it more comfortable.
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I love my 01 WJ with quadradrive.

Has 2" Lift, and 32" tires. Drives great as a commuter vehicle, With a 55 mile each way commute (110/ day) I average 19.5 mpg still.

It handles well offroad and in snow and ice. Going to be sad when i get something newer
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Old October 23rd, 2013, 12:53 AM   #29
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I DD my YJ for years in the snow, I never felt it was squirrelly. I'd let my wife drive a TJ in a heartbeat. She likes her H3 too much though.

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I daily drive my 04 tj 3" lift 32" tires daily for the last 2 years. Just let her know with the short wheel base the rear end wants to pass the front on ice and snow so she should use 4wd if the roads have any snow or ice on them.

My wife hates my tj she only rides in it when we go wheelin up north.
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I love my 01 WJ with quadradrive.

Has 2" Lift, and 32" tires. Drives great as a commuter vehicle, With a 55 mile each way commute (110/ day) I average 19.5 mpg still.

It handles well offroad and in snow and ice. Going to be sad when i get something newer
My 02 WJ with Quadradrive is by far the best winter vehicle I have owned. I recently put a 4.5 lift, Rubicon wheel and tire take offs, and a roof rack with spare tire on it. I lost 4mpg.

I DD it with a 100 mile day commute.

Thinking of getting a Subaru Crosstrek XV. Awd and 33mpg.
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Old October 23rd, 2013, 07:33 AM   #32
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damn, I'm surprised by the amount of vagina in this thread about driving a jeep as a DD in the winter.

I DD'd a TJ for years, with the right tires I think they handle the snow just fine (I owned mine while living in marquette and making frequent trips back home to the Fenton Area).

With the 33x15.5 sx's it wasn't optimal in the snow at highway speeds. With the stock tires it was fine but looked goofy, and with a set fo 33x9.5 kelly safari something or others that I borrowed from a friend for a bit it was perfectly fine.

Mileage was on par with what is being posted here, around 15mpg. Mine was a stick.

My jeep was also a soft top and half soft doors, that did get a little old. I don't think I would want that setup again for a winter DD. I probably also wouldn't want Swamper SX's on a DD.

With a mild/narrowish 33" tire, an automatic, full doors and a hard top, I think a TJ could be just fine.
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damn, I'm surprised by the amount of vagina in this thread about driving a jeep as a DD in the winter.

I DD'd a TJ for years, with the right tires I think they handle the snow just fine (I owned mine while living in marquette and making frequent trips back home to the Fenton Area).

With the 33x15.5 sx's it wasn't optimal in the snow at highway speeds. With the stock tires it was fine but looked goofy, and with a set fo 33x9.5 kelly safari something or others that I borrowed from a friend for a bit it was perfectly fine.

Mileage was on par with what is being posted here, around 15mpg. Mine was a stick.

My jeep was also a soft top and half soft doors, that did get a little old. I don't think I would want that setup again for a winter DD. I probably also wouldn't want Swamper SX's on a DD.

With a mild/narrowish 33" tire, an automatic, full doors and a hard top, I think a TJ could be just fine.
totally agree with this,

33-12.50 tend to be a little wide for snow on the road, I know most 33's are 12.5 or wider, but there are a few narrow ones, like BFG AT 33-10.50 that would be a much better tire for snow, or probably any tire that is less aggressive and narrower then 12"
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Well, if it was for me, I wouldn't think twice about it. I understand the limitations of a vehicle like that and would correct my driving to handle it. I'm not sure that I want to just hope that my wife would be able to do the same the first or second or third time there was a problem. I am also thinking that the hard top/hard doors would also be a good idea. So I think that an LJ would be a better way to go, all the way around. More cargo room, longer wheelbase. It literally would be a better grocery getter. ;)
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Well, if it was for me, I wouldn't think twice about it. I understand the limitations of a vehicle like that and would correct my driving to handle it. I'm not sure that I want to just hope that my wife would be able to do the same the first or second or third time there was a problem. I am also thinking that the hard top/hard doors would also be a good idea. So I think that an LJ would be a better way to go, all the way around. More cargo room, longer wheelbase. It literally would be a better grocery getter. ;)
The LJ would be a better choice, but I wouldn't expect it to be that drastically different.

For what it's worth my ex wife daily drove a YJ on 325x60/15 BFG Muds for 2-3 winters while in college. I can personally attest to those tires completely sucking ass in the snow. I watched the guy I bought them from roll his ranger in my rear view mirror while I was driving my lifted TJ on snowy roads.

She never had a problem, the YJ was lighter, seemed squirrelier than the TJ and the top definitely sucked balls in comparison. This was again while living in Marquette going to NMU.

The LJ would be better, but your wife if she is at all capable of driving in the snow would be fine in a TJ
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The LJ would be a better choice, but I wouldn't expect it to be that drastically different.

For what it's worth my ex wife daily drove a YJ on 325x60/15 BFG Muds for 2-3 winters while in college. I can personally attest to those tires completely sucking ass in the snow. I watched the guy I bought them from roll his ranger in my rear view mirror while I was driving my lifted TJ on snowy roads.

She never had a problem, the YJ was lighter, seemed squirrelier than the TJ and the top definitely sucked balls in comparison. This was again while living in Marquette going to NMU.

The LJ would be better, but your wife if she is at all capable of driving in the snow would be fine in a TJ
She is capable, but she's used to a longer wheelbase. She drove a Ford Explorer forever and has been driving a Subaru Forester the last few years.
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Well, if it was for me, I wouldn't think twice about it. I understand the limitations of a vehicle like that and would correct my driving to handle it. I'm not sure that I want to just hope that my wife would be able to do the same the first or second or third time there was a problem. I am also thinking that the hard top/hard doors would also be a good idea. So I think that an LJ would be a better way to go, all the way around. More cargo room, longer wheelbase. It literally would be a better grocery getter. ;)
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I wouldn't hesitate to dd a lifted tj, I have done it before. I just wouldn't purposely buy one for my significant other to drive in the winter.
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We loved our LJs but now we need to get into something a bit bigger to suit our needs.
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She is capable, but she's used to a longer wheelbase. She drove a Ford Explorer forever and has been driving a Subaru Forester the last few years.
In my current state of married with two kids and getting oldness I'd DD a forester over a TJ/LJ any day of the week.
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