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Old October 22nd, 2013, 07:25 AM   #21
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Must of been the out of control Republicans that hate Obamacare who took it so they can resell it to pay for their new health care...

JK. Hope you find it. There's nothing I hate more than a thief. Good luck Bruce.
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Old October 22nd, 2013, 07:44 AM   #22
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Home owners insurance?

I don't have insurance on my car hauler, I was told it is insured via home owners at home, and rides on the insurance of the tow rig when it is attached.

Then again, I pay insurance on my enclosed sled trailer. Wonder if I should insure my hauler.
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You're a garbage man in Detroit? I bet you have seen some serious shit.
Yes I have I do commercial pickup. I've seen robberies, car jackings and one time opened the gates to service a dumpster and there was a young black kid laying there with a gun shot to the head.
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Yes I have I do commercial pickup. I've seen robberies, car jackings and one time opened the gates to service a dumpster and there was a young black kid laying there with a gun shot to the head.
Was he dead or just hanging out?
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Yes, that's why no one steals cars in Michigan.

I just find it really odd that someone would go though all that trouble for (going by Bruce's description) a 'well used' trailer. Car must not have been worth attracting attention, but I know someone who's rotted 4 door Buick with only one operational door was stolen.

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My point was get caught with a stolen car and go to prison, get caught with a stolen trailer you can probably talk your way out of it in 20 mins at the police station, but nobody pays any attention to trailers.

They probably stole the trailer for a few dollars in scrap metal or sell it on CL
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My point was get caught with a stolen car and go to prison, get caught with a stolen trailer you can probably talk your way out of it in 20 mins at the police station, but nobody pays any attention to trailers.

They probably stole the trailer for a few dollars in scrap metal or sell it on CL
Yes, my point was that cars are traceable and easily identified, trailers are not. Even if I found it, I would have a tough time proving it was mine without a picture or something. I never thought to put my name on it anywhere.
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That sucks Bruce. Sorry to hear. It seems trailers are one of the easiest things to steal and not get caught.
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Old October 22nd, 2013, 10:13 AM   #27
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That sucks Bruce. Sorry to hear. It seems trailers are one of the easiest things to steal and not get caught.
I think you can thank jenny from the block and permanent trailer plates for that.
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I think you can thank jenny from the block and permanent trailer plates for that.
Why? I assume the first thing they did was ditch the plate. What difference would it make if it was permanent or annual?
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Why? I assume the first thing they did was ditch the plate. What difference would it make if it was permanent or annual?
Because now they can simply drive home and affix their permanent plate to the trailer. No need to take tags into the SOS to renew, no need to provide a bill of sale or title, etc.
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Home owners insurance?

I don't have insurance on my car hauler, I was told it is insured via home owners at home, and rides on the insurance of the tow rig when it is attached.

Then again, I pay insurance on my enclosed sled trailer. Wonder if I should insure my hauler.
When I bought my hauler, I was told homeowners does not cover in anyway. It is covered under the vehicle that is hauling it but does not cover theft. I decided to put insurance on it since it was only $35 a year.

Good luck finding your trailer, hopefully someone will spot it.
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Because now they can simply drive home and affix their permanent plate to the trailer. No need to take tags into the SOS to renew, no need to provide a bill of sale or title, etc.
When you had to renew your annual tags all you did was walk into the SOS and renew. No need to give a bill of sale or title.
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BTW the storage place was:

Public Storage
20080 Allen Road
Trenton, MI 48183

http://www.publicstorage.com/michiga...f-storage/1402

Their security is a joke. It took them at least 6 hours from the time they opened until they figured out it was my trailer that was missing and tried to call me. IN the mean time rather than pushing the car aside until I could be notified and come deal with the they had the police tow it to an impound lot. After a day of calling and leaving messages I still have not managed to talk to anyone from the Brownstown township police to find out what I need to do.
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If they left the car, that tells me they planned to keep the trailer not scrap it. Only honest people need a title to scrap a car. There was a guy on the next block down from me who got busted cutting cars up for scrap/parting out. He would take cars that were abandoned on the freeway. He got caught because he hauled home his neighbor's sister's car and started cutting it up... too bad the neighbor recognized the car....
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Trenton, MI 48183

http://www.publicstorage.com/michiga...f-storage/1402

Their security is a joke. It took them at least 6 hours from the time they opened until they figured out it was my trailer that was missing and tried to call me. IN the mean time rather than pushing the car aside until I could be notified and come deal with the they had the police tow it to an impound lot. After a day of calling and leaving messages I still have not managed to talk to anyone from the Brownstown township police to find out what I need to do.


They do not have insurance for their lot??!?!?!
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When you had to renew your annual tags all you did was walk into the SOS and renew. No need to give a bill of sale or title.
I always thought you needed a bit more to plate trailers previously. It's been a long time, and my dad who owned like 3-4 trailers always did it by the book.
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They do not have insurance for their lot??!?!?!
Storage lots have the ' we ain't responsible far shit' clause in their contract.
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I always thought you needed a bit more to plate trailers previously. It's been a long time, and my dad who owned like 3-4 trailers always did it by the book.
To get an initial plate, sure. But if you have a plate for something similar, the chances of moving it and getting busted are slim on a trailer unless you do something dumb like mix weight rating or put an RV plate on a hauler.

If you have a plate tied to a flat bed trailer and it breaks, and you go and steal another similar trailer and put your plate on it, then chances are nobody will ever be the wiser. Especially since many trailers have been repainted and don't have a VIN plate. I know my trailer had a sticker for ID that has since faded and ripped away. Very easy to paint over/destroy if you wanted to.

Heck, I'll bet if you had two of the same cars that were same basic year and color and only registered one and just moved the plate back and forth; nobody would ever notice. I don't think I have ever been pulled over and had the cop check my vin against my registration. Again, if you put a truck plate on a car, or the make model doesnt' match then I can see there being issues.
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To get an initial plate, sure. But if you have a plate for something similar, the chances of moving it and getting busted are slim on a trailer unless you do something dumb like mix weight rating or put an RV plate on a hauler.

If you have a plate tied to a flat bed trailer and it breaks, and you go and steal another similar trailer and put your plate on it, then chances are nobody will ever be the wiser. Especially since many trailers have been repainted and don't have a VIN plate. I know my trailer had a sticker for ID that has since faded and ripped away. Very easy to paint over/destroy if you wanted to.

Heck, I'll bet if you had two of the same cars that were same basic year and color and only registered one and just moved the plate back and forth; nobody would ever notice. I don't think I have ever been pulled over and had the cop check my vin against my registration. Again, if you put a truck plate on a car, or the make model doesnt' match then I can see there being issues.
Understood, just seems that the permanent plates get even less of a look than a standard plate that could expire would get.
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Bruce, once the police let the towing company take it, they are pretty much done with it, you will need to contact Martin's towing about your vehicle.

http://brownstownpolice-mi.org/police-impound/

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Bruce, this is the trailer in question, right? I remember repairing the rear sections while we worked on the club trailer. If its the wrong one, let me know and I'll delete these. Those side rails are someone different than many trailers, might help with ID....








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