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Old March 21st, 2013, 02:32 PM   #1
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IT market/pay for SE MI?

Any IT folks on here?

I am moving back home from san antonio (milan is where I am going). I am curious what the market and pay is like for an IT person up there.

in san antonio the market is a little weak in my experience. its much better in austin/houston/dallas. BUT, all 12 years of my IT experience has been down here. Never up there.

I was asked recently what my expected salary range is and I am not sure what a reasonable ball park is for the area/economy...

So, how is it?

should I expect 45-60k? should I expect 20-40k? how is ann arbor doing?
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Old March 21st, 2013, 02:34 PM   #2
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I would expect to stay in Texas. Michigan sucks for any type of job.
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Old March 21st, 2013, 02:37 PM   #3
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I would expect to stay in Texas. Michigan sucks for any type of job.
it aint much better down here bud. I got laid off a little while back, and come to find out its easier to find a job up there right now than here... (ive had a few calls)...

and, I am tired of being down here. If I am gonna be broke anyway I might as well be broke where I want to be.
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Old March 21st, 2013, 02:40 PM   #4
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Funny. I was just in Grand Prairie a few weeks back, my employer is looking at opening a location down there.
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Old March 21st, 2013, 02:43 PM   #5
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That depends on a lot of factors; what specific area of IT, what qualifications/experience/education you have, etc. Also, contract or direct can make a big difference. Talking to Kickstand might be a good place to start as far as getting a feel for the market based on the answer to those questions.
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Old March 21st, 2013, 02:52 PM   #6
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Funny. I was just in Grand Prairie a few weeks back, my employer is looking at opening a location down there.
grand prairie is dallas... not san antonio.

as I said. the markets in those areas are much better. san antonio is weak, and the market is weak unless you are DOD or a contractor. Then you can do ok...

When my TS/SCI expired I lost the edge I had to get back into the DOD community.

I am looking to be full time on board employee somewhere. perfer not contract. but we will see.

as far as experience goes. I do not have a bachelor's or master's yet. But i have my military technical training and a handful of random certifications to go along with it. I am strong in microsoft technologies. I can hold my own networking (not cisco certified though). I do have virtualization experience with both citrix and vmware (no certs to go along with it though yet, last boss wouldnt pay for it like anything else in this line of work I was thrown to the wolves). 4 years of unix/linux experience. etc...

I was a consultant for a good part of it. we have to know enough about EVERYTHING, not be an expert at one thing.

if someone is interested or wants to more I can go into greater detail
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Old March 21st, 2013, 02:54 PM   #7
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I would expect to stay in Texas. Michigan sucks for any type of job.
you're ignorant.
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Old March 21st, 2013, 02:55 PM   #8
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Any IT folks on here?

I am moving back home from san antonio (milan is where I am going). I am curious what the market and pay is like for an IT person up there.

in san antonio the market is a little weak in my experience. its much better in austin/houston/dallas. BUT, all 12 years of my IT experience has been down here. Never up there.

I was asked recently what my expected salary range is and I am not sure what a reasonable ball park is for the area/economy...

So, how is it?

should I expect 45-60k? should I expect 20-40k? how is ann arbor doing?
could you be any less detailed about what you do?

here I'll give you a range.

IT Helpdesk positions start at around $10/hr and the CIO can make approximately 100-200k/year.

You probably fall somewhere in there.
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Well, without certs you aren't likely to even get an interview.

My resume looks almost the same but I'm not doing IT as my main job, I just get stuck with it from time to time.
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Old March 21st, 2013, 02:57 PM   #10
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you're ignorant.
OK, sucks for any type of job that you don't have umpteen years of schooling. Real life experience don't count for shit anymore.
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Old March 21st, 2013, 02:58 PM   #11
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could you be any less detailed about what you do?

here I'll give you a range.

IT Helpdesk positions start at around $10/hr and the CIO can make approximately 100-200k/year.

You probably fall somewhere in there.
your right... I should have been a little more detailed.

I would more than likely be looking at server/network administration, intermediate level.
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Well, without certs you aren't likely to even get an interview.

My resume looks almost the same but I'm not doing IT as my main job, I just get stuck with it from time to time.
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OK, sucks for any type of job that you don't have umpteen years of schooling. Real life experience don't count for shit anymore.
Consider the possibility that maybe it's just you..
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Old March 21st, 2013, 02:59 PM   #13
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55K - 70K would be the range I have seen for your area. Contract work towards the higher end of that.
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Old March 21st, 2013, 03:00 PM   #14
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Well, without certs you aren't likely to even get an interview.

My resume looks almost the same but I'm not doing IT as my main job, I just get stuck with it from time to time.
I must be doing something right!
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Old March 21st, 2013, 03:02 PM   #15
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55K - 70K would be the range I have seen for your area. Contract work towards the higher end of that.
if thats what I can expect then I will be just fine...
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Old March 21st, 2013, 03:05 PM   #16
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Consider the possibility that maybe it's just you..
Me, and a lot of people I meet in my current job.

Last week I had to spend 3 hours walking our IT person through the settings to get the company email to work on his android phone. (not a solid 3 hours, more like 5 minutes- then 20 minutes later another 5 minutes...and so on)

He has a degree.

Not saying that EVERYONE with a degree is an idiot, but without a degree it's extremely unlikely you'll get the same consideration for a job that someone with a degree has.
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Old March 21st, 2013, 03:08 PM   #17
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I would expect to stay in Texas. Michigan sucks for any type of job.
I find that statement to be grossly incorrect.
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Old March 21st, 2013, 03:08 PM   #18
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Me, and a lot of people I meet in my current job.

Last week I had to spend 3 hours walking our IT person through the settings to get the company email to work on his android phone. (not a solid 3 hours, more like 5 minutes- then 20 minutes later another 5 minutes...and so on)

He has a degree.

Not saying that EVERYONE with a degree is an idiot, but without a degree it's extremely unlikely you'll get the same consideration for a job that someone with a degree has.
im not disagreeing. BUT, maybe I should send my resume to your company? To help free up some of your time?!

and I didnt say I had no certs just not cisco and virtualization...

I am just making sure I dont under or over shoot the pay range for positions I am asked about.
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Old March 21st, 2013, 03:08 PM   #19
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OK, sucks for any type of job that you don't have the required skill set.
FTFY

From everything I've seen the jobs are here as long as you have the skill set that the job requires. In fact it seems like a lot of employers are dying for good QUALIFIED help. Gone are the days of, "well I kinda saw that once, 20 years ago", and getting a job.
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Old March 21st, 2013, 03:09 PM   #20
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OK, sucks for any type of job that you don't have umpteen years of schooling. Real life experience don't count for shit anymore.
That's not true either.

I place people ALL over the US. Pay rates in Detroit are very competitive, and I've said for quite a while that there is STILL a shortage of talented, QUALIFIED, candidates in the Detroit area.

Real life experience counts, but not when you can hire someone with real life experience AND qualifications outside of work from candidates who have taken the initiative to BETTER themselves and STAY competitive.....
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