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Old October 1st, 2013, 06:59 PM   #1
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so i traded my tahoe for a f-250 and the guy agreed to write me a check for 1500 to make up the difference in the value of the two vehicles. i went to cash the check and my bank told me it looked fishy.

they proceded to call his bank and check for the funds and they were not there.....

i tried to call the guy and he wont answer or return calls. i did find a 2nd number on one of the repair bills in the glove box of the truck so i called that and it was the guys mom. i explained the situation to here and she said she would have him call me.

my question is if he doesnt call back (i dont think he will) what is my next step? i have a check that he signed but i cant cash it?
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I'd be in his driveway... Like Right now. Was it a kid? Head over to Mom and Dads.
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the things that i learned so far are dont take checks and make him sign something but thats a little too late for this situation
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i do know where he lives but i cant hold a gun to his head (as much as i would like to right now...)
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Legally, I think you don't have much of a leg to stand on, except maybe check fraud, but that is going to cost money. Like I said, I'd be at the mom's house.. bending her over the kitchen table until he either paid me the money cash, or I got 1500 bucks worth of anal out of momma.
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Go talk to him and explain that if he does not make good on the deal you will turn it over to the police. Then steal your Tahoe back.
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Legally, I think you don't have much of a leg to stand on, except maybe check fraud, but that is going to cost money. Like I said, I'd be at the mom's house.. bending her over the kitchen table until he either paid me the money cash, or I got 1500 bucks worth of anal out of momma.
thats what i was wondering about was the legal side of it. if im not mistaken its a federal offense to write a bad check?
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Go talk to him and explain that if he does not make good on the deal you will turn it over to the police. Then steal your Tahoe back.
the thought has crossed my mind, the mistake i made was i gave him the title and i took his title..... stupid me i know

i will at the least take way more precaution when doing a deal from now on but i really want to get my money without goting to the athouritys
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Never ever take a check. I dont expect people to do it when im buying and theres no way in hell id do it when im selling. I would say if its a young kid keep talking to his parents and maybe they will help make it right. Or just keep slashing the tires on his truck till he gets the point.
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Michigan. Up to $250 fine or six months in jail. Up to $500 fine or one year in jail.
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Never ever take a check. I dont expect people to do it when im buying and theres no way in hell id do it when im selling. I would say if its a young kid keep talking to his parents and maybe they will help make it right. Or just keep slashing the tires on his truck till he gets the point.
yea i have never had a problem before but will never take a check again.

and the guy is 48 years old and lives with his elderly mother......i thought i could trust the guy as we met in a parking lot and then i followed him to his house to get the check....
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Well now you have learned that you should never accept a personal check from someone you do not know/trust. Cashier's check or money order.
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here ya go.. right from the man him self.

Section 750.131a


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750.131a Check, draft, or order for payment of money; making, drawing, uttering, or delivering without account, credit, or sufficient funds with intent to defraud; violation as felony; penalties.
Sec. 131a.

(1) A person shall not, with intent to defraud, make, draw, utter, or deliver any check, draft, or order for the payment of money, to apply on an account or otherwise, upon any bank or other depository, if at the time of making, drawing, uttering, or delivering the check, draft, or order he or she does not have an account in or credit with the bank or other depository for the payment of the check, draft, or order upon presentation. A person who violates this subsection is guilty of a felony, punishable by imprisonment for not more than 2 years, or by a fine of not more than $500.00, or both.

(2) A person shall not, with intent to defraud, make, draw, utter, or deliver, within a period of not more than 10 days, 3 or more checks, drafts, or orders for the payment of money, to apply on account or otherwise, upon any bank or other depository, knowing at the time of making, drawing, uttering, or delivering each of the checks, drafts, or orders that the maker or drawer does not have sufficient funds or credit with the bank or other depository for the payment of the check, draft, or order in full upon its presentation. A person who violates this subsection is guilty of a felony, punishable by imprisonment for not more than 2 years, or by a fine of not more than $500.00, or both.


History: Add. 1941, Act 200, Eff. Jan. 10, 1942 ;-- CL 1948, 750.131a ;-- Am. 1984, Act 277, Eff. Mar. 29, 1985


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Well now you have learned that you should never accept a personal check from someone you do not know/trust. Cashier's check or money order.
yup, hopefully when i go to his house he will own up but if not i guess it was a 1500 dollar mistake
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Keep calling mom till she gets pissed and makes kid pay
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Section 750.131a


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750.131a Check, draft, or order for payment of money; making, drawing, uttering, or delivering without account, credit, or sufficient funds with intent to defraud; violation as felony; penalties.
Sec. 131a.

(1) A person shall not, with intent to defraud, make, draw, utter, or deliver any check, draft, or order for the payment of money, to apply on an account or otherwise, upon any bank or other depository, if at the time of making, drawing, uttering, or delivering the check, draft, or order he or she does not have an account in or credit with the bank or other depository for the payment of the check, draft, or order upon presentation. A person who violates this subsection is guilty of a felony, punishable by imprisonment for not more than 2 years, or by a fine of not more than $500.00, or both.

(2) A person shall not, with intent to defraud, make, draw, utter, or deliver, within a period of not more than 10 days, 3 or more checks, drafts, or orders for the payment of money, to apply on account or otherwise, upon any bank or other depository, knowing at the time of making, drawing, uttering, or delivering each of the checks, drafts, or orders that the maker or drawer does not have sufficient funds or credit with the bank or other depository for the payment of the check, draft, or order in full upon its presentation. A person who violates this subsection is guilty of a felony, punishable by imprisonment for not more than 2 years, or by a fine of not more than $500.00, or both.


History: Add. 1941, Act 200, Eff. Jan. 10, 1942 ;-- CL 1948, 750.131a ;-- Am. 1984, Act 277, Eff. Mar. 29, 1985


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Section 750.131a


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750.131a Check, draft, or order for payment of money; making, drawing, uttering, or delivering without account, credit, or sufficient funds with intent to defraud; violation as felony; penalties.
Sec. 131a.

(1) A person shall not, with intent to defraud, make, draw, utter, or deliver any check, draft, or order for the payment of money, to apply on an account or otherwise, upon any bank or other depository, if at the time of making, drawing, uttering, or delivering the check, draft, or order he or she does not have an account in or credit with the bank or other depository for the payment of the check, draft, or order upon presentation. A person who violates this subsection is guilty of a felony, punishable by imprisonment for not more than 2 years, or by a fine of not more than $500.00, or both.

(2) A person shall not, with intent to defraud, make, draw, utter, or deliver, within a period of not more than 10 days, 3 or more checks, drafts, or orders for the payment of money, to apply on account or otherwise, upon any bank or other depository, knowing at the time of making, drawing, uttering, or delivering each of the checks, drafts, or orders that the maker or drawer does not have sufficient funds or credit with the bank or other depository for the payment of the check, draft, or order in full upon its presentation. A person who violates this subsection is guilty of a felony, punishable by imprisonment for not more than 2 years, or by a fine of not more than $500.00, or both.


History: Add. 1941, Act 200, Eff. Jan. 10, 1942 ;-- CL 1948, 750.131a ;-- Am. 1984, Act 277, Eff. Mar. 29, 1985


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Plus, being a felon he could never legally own a firearm.
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Well then go back over there. It wouldnt hurt to try. Maybe its an honest mistake. I bet not but worth a shot
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