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Old September 24th, 2013, 12:36 PM   #1
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Here is something I wanted to throw out to you guys.

We have 2 '12 Gator XUV 825i units at work. The bed capacity is rated at 1000lbs. At about 600lbs, the suspension is bottomed out and we loose all ground clearance at the hitch. This happened the first winter we had these units so I know the suspension was not blown out.

Other people have the same issue based on information I gather on a JD forum. Nobody makes HD shocks for these excepet for the Fox shocks that can be bought through the dealer and then those are not rated for a heavy load, just travel.

Ridetech tried to make an air spring but found the angle at which the shock was mounted wouldn't allow it to work properly. Airlift doesn't have anything available but I may take a unit in to them to see if something will fit and I can adapt it to mount properly.

I may try to get the physical specs of the shocks from JD to see if I can find a compatible unit.

I am almost at the point I might make up a solid rod with eyes on each end to put in place of the rear shocks but am afriad of cracking the control arms due to the extra stress.
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Old September 24th, 2013, 03:22 PM   #2
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Is this a coil over shock? Shocks don't increase load capacity, stiffer springs do. If it is not a coil over, or a shock with adjustable gas pressure then good luck.


I just looked at pics, it looks like a coil over. You need stiffer springs.
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Old September 24th, 2013, 03:25 PM   #3
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It is coilover. When I say shock I mean the whole coilover assembly. The stock units cannot be taken apart like the Fox units can so I have to replace the entire assembly. That is why I would like an air shock.
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It is coilover. When I say shock I mean the whole coilover assembly. The stock units cannot be taken apart like the Fox units can so I have to replace the entire assembly. That is why I would like an air shock.
How do they get the spring on the shock? My guess is that it can be done.
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Old September 24th, 2013, 03:28 PM   #5
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Looks welded to rod and cylinder.
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Look like these. I forgot they were adjustable but still cannot take apart, easily.

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Only put 500lbs in it.

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Rig up two sets. 1200lb capacity

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Look like these. I forgot they were adjustable but still cannot take apart, easily.
Easily or not at all?? You need to change out the springs or find some coil overs the same length(s) with more spring rate. No other options that I can think of.
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Easily or not at all?? You need to change out the springs or find some coil overs the same length(s) with more spring rate. No other options that I can think of.
Well the stop on the bottom of the shock under the adjusting device is welded to the cylinder and I don't believe it would be very safe to cut it off and reweld it on to a gas filled canister with thin walls.
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Well the stop on the bottom of the shock under the adjusting device is welded to the cylinder and I don't believe it would be very safe to cut it off and reweld it on to a gas filled canister with thin walls.
cut the shock mount bushing off the other end? make it so that the other side can come off?

Just throwing out other ideas. don't say it can't be done easily. it's getting it back together that's the problem.

Is there room for secondary helper springs?
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Not on the left side. The exhaust is in the way.
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At this point my only option would be to get the $1200 Fox coilovers and replace the coil spring with a stiffer unit. But it just seems like a waste to have those units but not be able use them as intended.
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The ring at the top of the shock is not slotted??? Why not slot it so that when the shock is compressed down with a spring compressor and out of the way you can slip it off the shaft. Then change the spring. If you are not going to reuse the original springs, you could always cut them off prior to slotting to top retaining ring. The fact that the top ring is not slotted confuses me.... How did manufacturer get spring on said shock at the factory???
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They must install everything, compress the spring and then weld the stops on then charge the shock somehow.

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Not on the left side. The exhaust is in the way.
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They must install everything, compress the spring and then weld the stops on then charge the shock somehow.

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Does it look like you could make a slot to get the top collar off with the spring compressed? Any chance the top eye is screwed on?? Just throwing some ideas...

What about some Fox airfloats off of a sled???
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I'm getting the shock specs sent over to me so I can try go find an aftermarket shock that might fit something else.

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compress spring. make split collars to take up some more room to pre load the spring. use some hose clamps to keep them from popping out. or does it possibly have different upper shock mount locations like a Polaris ranger? changing the leverage ratio on the shock by moving the top mount out farther making the shock more vertical.
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