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Old September 11th, 2013, 05:17 PM   #1
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Default wifi thermostat anyone?

Went to home depot today to get couple of things, while browsing through the electric isle I remembered a friend telling me about the wifi electric outlets that you can control from your phone. I looked around and after failing to spot anything like it I came across a home depot guy that works in that department. I asked him where they are if they have them. Seems like they don't stock them yet but already have a shelf spot for them since they are coming soon. However, he told me that they have a WiFi Honeywell thermostat in isle 12.

Anyone has one installed? Pros. Cons? Any vulnerabilities to getting hacked by an out of work teenager sitting in parent's basement using his computer to play a joke on an unsuspecting homeowner and turning on the heat when it's 100 degrees Fahrenheit outside?
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Old September 11th, 2013, 05:27 PM   #2
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My cousin really likes hers. Can wake up in the morning, turn the heat up from bed so when you finally get up its warm. And if you are running late/early for work you can adjust the heat/ac to save some energy
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Old September 11th, 2013, 05:45 PM   #3
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A guy at work had the nest and he realy liked it. I was waiting to see if he ever recovered the $250 investment in energy savings, but never got to find out, as he took a different position in the company at another facility. At the time, it was learning his patters, and he could manually control it from his iphone at work.

Pretty slick unit.
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Old September 11th, 2013, 05:57 PM   #4
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It is sweet i put one in so i didnt have to get out of bed to change the heat every night for my girlfriend she just uses her phone. Iv had it for about a year with no issues.
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Old September 11th, 2013, 08:35 PM   #5
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I have a zwave t-stat and love it. If you are out all day you can set the temp up/down depending on the season and turn it up/down before you get home.

Plus, I know if the nanny fucks with the temp.
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I have a GE Nucleus system. I have no complaints. I can monitor and adjust the thermostat from my phone, laptop, computer at work... basically any machine that I log into (though the iPhone app is really slow to load up).

The Nucleus is nice because I can also keep track of electric usage and certain appliances. And if I had it set up to its full capabilities I could turn on and off lights with it. Supposedly, in some areas you can also see real time water/sewerage usage with it as well.

Mine was free, including installation through a study with DTE, I just have to fill out about a 10 minute survey every six months (plus they send me checks to go along with the survey). I do like that the thermostat is programmable now too but if I had to pay for the setup on my own I wouldn't have bothered. I log in on my phone or computer to change the temp maybe once a month.

Sure, Big Brother can probably keep a better track on me now, but I could not care less.
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Old September 11th, 2013, 09:04 PM   #7
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I like the idea of the Nest... I can't justify $250 for a thermostat.
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Old September 11th, 2013, 09:29 PM   #8
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I have a Wifey thermostat. I set it, and she gets up and resets it to the exact opposite of where I had it.
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A guy at work had the nest and he realy liked it. I was waiting to see if he ever recovered the $250 investment in energy savings, but never got to find out, as he took a different position in the company at another facility. At the time, it was learning his patters, and he could manually control it from his iphone at work.

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I like the idea of the Nest... I can't justify $250 for a thermostat.
I bit the bullet and bought one in January. I wouldn't go so far as to say i have recovered my $250, but the auto away is awesome and nest has a report of how much time that feature has saved the furnace/AC from running.

I like the fact that if i realize on Friday in TN that I forgot to turn off the AC, I can do it with a smartphone, or If I forget it does it automatically (though it has to realize you aren't there first.)
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Old September 11th, 2013, 11:08 PM   #10
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I have a Wifey thermostat. I set it, and she gets up and resets it to the exact opposite of where I had it.
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Old September 12th, 2013, 06:22 AM   #11
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I have always been a believer in keeping a fairly steady temperature in your house, the ups and downs make your systems work pretty hard to re-establish your temperatures.

I only vary my thermostat by a few degrees day/night. I do however turn it down if I will be away from the house for a few days.
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Old September 12th, 2013, 06:46 AM   #12
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I have a GE Nucleus system. I have no complaints. I can monitor and adjust the thermostat from my phone, laptop, computer at work... basically any machine that I log into (though the iPhone app is really slow to load up).

The Nucleus is nice because I can also keep track of electric usage and certain appliances. And if I had it set up to its full capabilities I could turn on and off lights with it. Supposedly, in some areas you can also see real time water/sewerage usage with it as well.

Mine was free, including installation through a study with DTE, I just have to fill out about a 10 minute survey every six months (plus they send me checks to go along with the survey). I do like that the thermostat is programmable now too but if I had to pay for the setup on my own I wouldn't have bothered. I log in on my phone or computer to change the temp maybe once a month.

Sure, Big Brother can probably keep a better track on me now, but I could not care less.
Do you also have that tiered rate where it's cheaper on nights and weekends and they put it in your ass on "emergency days" or whatever?
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Old September 12th, 2013, 07:10 AM   #13
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I have always been a believer in keeping a fairly steady temperature in your house, the ups and downs make your systems work pretty hard to re-establish your temperatures.

I only vary my thermostat by a few degrees day/night. I do however turn it down if I will be away from the house for a few days.
They recommend only keeping the variance withing 4-6 degrees for that reason. I can tell you having a programmable thermostat saves my wife and I $20-$30 a month depending on the weather.
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Old September 12th, 2013, 07:24 AM   #14
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If you're going to do it, look into the Nest thermostat. It's Internet accessible and "learns" your household routine to be a little more efficient. The mobile app is sweet as well.
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Old September 12th, 2013, 07:32 AM   #15
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I have a Nest. No complaints. I don't know if it actually saved me money, but it certainly makes me more conscientious about tweaking things to attempt to save. I don't have much interest in actually computing what my savings are.

Only issue I've had with is thus far is that the wifi on my last unit died after more than a year. The customer service was great and I had a new unit in the mail after 2 days to replace it. I have a first gen, which I think has a 3 year warranty... the 2nd gens have at least a year less of warranty - fair warning.
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They recommend only keeping the variance withing 4-6 degrees for that reason. I can tell you having a programmable thermostat saves my wife and I $20-$30 a month depending on the weather.
I think mine varies about 4* max. I turn it down (or up in the summer) about 10* if I am going to be gone for more than 48 hours. How can you prove this, did you save all of the data from temperature, wind direction, exact indoor temperature, exact light bulb vs heating useage, exact gas useage per appliance, etc?

Certainly I am giving you a bit of a hard time, but its hard to calculate what actually saved you money on your utilities month to month....
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My central A/C is dead, and my furnace sucks. So my house temp is generally pretty close to the outdoor temp.

Still can't figure out how replacing a furnace that had one dead burner and kept the house at 70 easily in the winter with a new furnace of the exact same BTU rating immediately meant temps no higher than 62 in the winter.
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I have always been a believer in keeping a fairly steady temperature in your house, the ups and downs make your systems work pretty hard to re-establish your temperatures.

I only vary my thermostat by a few degrees day/night. I do however turn it down if I will be away from the house for a few days.
X2...I have been told the same thing by a couple heating and cooling people. I used to change mine several degrees from day to night, when I was home and when I was gone etc. I was told this uses more energy than only varying it a couple degrees because of recovery time. This is true because for the 2 years I did that I used more gas/electricity than I do now only varying it by 2-4 degrees.
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Old September 12th, 2013, 08:00 AM   #19
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Looks like a fun unit to have. Especially the nest. I have a pretty good programmable thermostat to vary the temperature throughout the week.

I'm not looking at this principally as a money saving device but more as a novelty/convenience device. It would certainly be helpful at times when returning from a trip early or late and have the ability to adjust the temperature away from home.

It would also be fun to override the "wifey" thermostat.

Can either device send you alerts when someone manually changes the temperature?
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My last house had one of the early programmable t-stats, I set up temps for day, night, weekend, and on and on....after a year, I ended up settling on 75 degrees in the summer and 68 in the winter. Saved more that way than with the constant couple degrees back and forth diddling.

Admit it- this more of a geek thing than actual savings.
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