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Old September 1st, 2013, 12:50 PM   #101
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Old September 1st, 2013, 02:22 PM   #102
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If they raise the speed limits i hope the truck speeds are increased as well. 60 MPH is way too slow. What they should do is take examples from highways in europe that have multi lane speed limits. left lane is the highest speed while the right lane is the slowest speed. also enforce minimum speeds not more than 20 mph less than the posted limit.
While your suggestion of minimum speeds of 20 mph less than the posted speed at first sounds good, until I remember trying to get a gas powered motorhome over a couple Rocky mountain passes. There is no way I could hold 50 mph up those inclines.
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Old September 1st, 2013, 02:45 PM   #103
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While your suggestion of minimum speeds of 20 mph less than the posted speed at first sounds good, until I remember trying to get a gas powered motorhome over a couple Rocky mountain passes. There is no way I could hold 50 mph up those inclines.
my post is in reference to michigan. which to my knowledge is mostly flat with a few hills here and there. Nothing severe like out east or out west with 7% grades for miles at a time.
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my post is in reference to michigan. which to my knowledge is mostly flat with a few hills here and there. Nothing severe like out east or out west with 7% grades for miles at a time.
Apparently you've never been further west than Sault Ste Marie, since there aren't multiple lane highways further west, and there are plenty of inclines.
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Apparently you've never been further west than Sault Ste Marie, since there aren't multiple lane highways further west, and there are plenty of inclines.
You have to get pretty far west to hit the hills... Like porcupine mountains west
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You have to get pretty far west to hit the hills... Like porcupine mountains west
So that's like... so far west it may as well be Minnesota or Wisconsin right? So, it like.. Doesn't count.
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Old September 1st, 2013, 05:28 PM   #107
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Well.....we were talking about speed limits in MI......but hell even the "hills" in the W. U.P. are small.
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Old September 4th, 2013, 05:49 AM   #108
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They are starting to do this in the UP, but slowly. There is a stretch by Gladstone/Esky area that went 70 recently. There is also I-75 and over by Iron Mountain somewhere. Personally I'd rather see them setup to go 65 like Wisconsin. Not interstate speeds, but as fast as everyone goes anyways.

FWIW I've held the theory that they keep putting in more and more passing lanes. One year they'll do what they are talking about now and just up the speed because it will be all 4 lane highway.
From Rapid River to Gladstone it is divided 4-lane and is posted @ 65, I-75 is obviously 70, and nothing around I.M. is higher than 55. There was talk last year about making US-2 from St. Ignace to Rapid River 65 also, but for some reason or another, it never happened. I too would like to see several of our U.P. roads go to 65. There is no way 80 mph, like the original article says, would every happen anywhere other than on I-75 in the Yoop.
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I'd still be happy with that. It would make the time I do a lake tour shorter. At Xmas time, the wife and I go up to Escanaba, then down to Clinton Twp, before heading back out to Iowa because of where our parents live.
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I'd still be happy with that. It would make the time I do a lake tour shorter. At Xmas time, the wife and I go up to Escanaba, then down to Clinton Twp, before heading back out to Iowa because of where our parents live.
yep.....80mph in the UP in the winter sounds real cool!!
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yep.....80mph in the UP in the winter sounds real cool!!
I meant 65mph. I don't want to play smear the me on the highway with the logging trucks.
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Drive around Traverse area for a day, and you'll remember real quick that driving under the speed limit by 20 mph, is perfectly fine and normal. 35 around the bay is totally cool for lots of people.
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From Rapid River to Gladstone it is divided 4-lane and is posted @ 65, I-75 is obviously 70, and nothing around I.M. is higher than 55. There was talk last year about making US-2 from St. Ignace to Rapid River 65 also, but for some reason or another, it never happened. I too would like to see several of our U.P. roads go to 65. There is no way 80 mph, like the original article says, would every happen anywhere other than on I-75 in the Yoop.
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I just came back from the UP last weekend. It doesn't matter what the speed limit sign says, there's always some a-hole pulling a camper at 55mph with a line of cares a mile long behind him...
Probably because other than I-75 no matter where you go in the U P you will not find a speed limit higher than 55? (outside of the one small stretch near escanaba I forgot about)

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No shit. WTF!

BTW, I learned the hard way that in the UP the left lane is for PASSING only. I was the only car on the road and a cop pulled me over for driving in the left lane when not passing a vehicle.
Good, that's how it should be on all roads/highways.

I drive through ohio all the time and I never get stuck behind some Ahole in the left lane driving slower than he should.

You merge, you pass, you merge back. gee now wasn't that simple?
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Check out 85th percentile speed for more info on why speed limits should be what the majority of everyone is driving.
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Check out 85th percentile speed for more info on why speed limits should be what the majority of everyone is driving.
Even more specifically, drive through Ohio on a holiday weekend and see how nicely traffic flows when everyone drives the speed limit and/or only drives in the right lane except to pass. It is a nice thing to be able to just set your cruise control and not have to worry about planning your passes (on highways/divided roads)
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That is the default law in MI. Keep right except to pass. It doesn't have to be posted. Unfortunately, law enforcement rarely writes this up. (my father was written up once many years ago) I do believe though, that it should be amended to only apply when same direction traffic is present.
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That is the default law in MI. Keep right except to pass. It doesn't have to be posted. Unfortunately, law enforcement rarely writes this up. (my father was written up once many years ago) I do believe though, that it should be amended to only apply when same direction traffic is present.
This weekend I drove over 1,000 miles.

I typically set my cruise at 1-2 mph over while out of state to avoid a ticket (espescially in ohio on a holiday weekend).

I never had to even turn off my cruise control to pass another car on a highway because of left lane traffic holding me up.

Only 150 of those miles were in michigan and I couldn't even use the cruise control because of so many other people in the left lane when they should not have been.

The law should be enforeced, and should have nothing to do with passing lanes or opposing traffic, you should stay to the right except to pass a slower moving vehicle. Period.

(Yes, I used to drive in the left lane and not give a fukc )....It is a "bit" different during rush hour. However, if our speed limits were enforced more diligently and our keep right except to pass laws were enforced more diligently it would make driving a much smoother and less frustrating situation most of the time. (Especially during longer road trips)
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I agree, except when there are no other cars on the road, in which case it is safer to drive in the left lane. I'm not talking about driving in the left lane and not giving a shit about others, I mean driving in the left lane when no one else is around, and moving right when a car approaches from the rear.
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