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Old August 29th, 2013, 11:14 AM   #41
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Cant wait until insurance doubles because of this
Mine didn't change when they decided to make helmets optional. I figured that would be a shitstorm.
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Old August 29th, 2013, 11:22 AM   #42
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Why would insurance double because of this?
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Old August 29th, 2013, 11:28 AM   #43
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I agree, 70+ would be a bit much. There are quite a few passing lanes so I'm not sure how much difference your point would really make.
I kept it around 62-63mph 90% of the time and am one of the few I know of who never got a ticket going through the UP. Interceptors/decoys were always welcome along that drive. I think 65mph speed limits would be perfectly reasonable along most of the main routes through the UP.


Agreed. That'd be a reasonable speed and less chance of tickets
There are still quite a few sections where the passing lanes are spread out pretty far, but I'm with you.

If there was a median or a divider and it was a true freeway I would be all for it.

65 would be nice, i'd be good with that even.
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Old August 29th, 2013, 11:29 AM   #44
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In Wyoming it was 75mph speed limit on freeway and 65 out of town roads. Never had a problem going 80 on freeway, and 70 on others the whole time I was out there and it reminded me of the U.P. cause it was like a hour or more in between towns. But it made it nice, I wish they would do that here.
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Old August 29th, 2013, 01:27 PM   #45
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Why would insurance double because of this?
Accidents will become more serious, increasing the price of damages
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Old August 29th, 2013, 01:27 PM   #46
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Mine didn't change when they decided to make helmets optional. I figured that would be a shitstorm.
But if thats true who knows. I figured that would raise it a ton
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Old August 29th, 2013, 01:57 PM   #47
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Accidents will become more serious, increasing the price of damages
How did you figure that?
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Old August 29th, 2013, 02:01 PM   #48
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Accidents will become more serious, increasing the price of damages
They will?

Can you please explain how you came to this conclusion?
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Old August 29th, 2013, 02:26 PM   #49
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Accidents will become more serious, increasing the price of damages
I'm not a physicist but I think this is fair to say-
A head on collision at 55mph: both vehicles will be fukced beyond repair
A head on collision at 75mph: both vehicles will be fukced beyond repair
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Old August 29th, 2013, 02:31 PM   #50
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I'm not a physicist but I think this is fair to say-
A head on collision at 55mph: both vehicles will be fukced beyond repair
A head on collision at 75mph: both vehicles will be fukced beyond repair
I am not an expert. But I was once in a 55 mph head on collision. It was violent as all holy fucking hell could be. My engine/transmission popped my radio out of the dashboard, my trunk would not open, etc etc etc. The car was scrapped. It was 3 payments old.

I wouldn't want to try it at 75, but I can't see the results being any better.
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Old August 29th, 2013, 02:39 PM   #51
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I'm all for it. I spent enough time driving back and forth thru the UP and the risk of cops was the only logical reason for keeping it close to the 55mph speed limit. Certain stretches should definitely fall into the 70mph category(US 2, Seney stretch, etc). Deer and wildlife will be a risk, but not much more than they already are.
I just drove from the Soo to Minnesota and back last Friday and across 28 the speed traps are horrible. 55 then around a corner and 30 then up to 50 and back to 25 in just a couple of miles. And several sections where it drops to 50 from 55 so if you are pushing it a little at say 60, when you hit that spot then yer 10 over. Lots of police along that section.
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Old August 29th, 2013, 02:49 PM   #52
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I just drove from the Soo to Minnesota and back last Friday and across 28 the speed traps are horrible. 55 then around a corner and 30 then up to 50 and back to 25 in just a couple of miles. And several sections where it drops to 50 from 55 so if you are pushing it a little at say 60, when you hit that spot then yer 10 over. Lots of police along that section.
There are way to many cops with nothing to do but speed traps up there. Seems that way anytime I cross the bridge, still bad in northern lower, but twice as bad in the UP IMO.
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Old August 29th, 2013, 02:50 PM   #53
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I am not an expert. But I was once in a 55 mph head on collision. It was violent as all holy fucking hell could be. My engine/transmission popped my radio out of the dashboard, my trunk would not open, etc etc etc. The car was scrapped. It was 3 payments old.

I wouldn't want to try it at 75, but I can't see the results being any better.
How did you manage that one?

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Old August 29th, 2013, 03:10 PM   #54
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There are still quite a few sections where the passing lanes are spread out pretty far, but I'm with you.

If there was a median or a divider and it was a true freeway I would be all for it.

65 would be nice, i'd be good with that even.

I agree. They made that section of 127 65. I wonder if it increased accidents.
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Old August 29th, 2013, 03:41 PM   #55
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How did you manage that one?

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It was pretty easily actually. The front of my car ran into the front of the other car.

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Old August 29th, 2013, 04:14 PM   #56
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I'm not a physicist but I think this is fair to say-
A head on collision at 55mph: both vehicles will be fukced beyond repair
A head on collision at 75mph: both vehicles will be fukced beyond repair
A vehicle at 75mph has almost twice the kinetic energy of the vehicle at 55mph.
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Old August 29th, 2013, 04:20 PM   #57
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A vehicle at 75mph has almost twice the kinetic energy of the vehicle at 55mph.
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Old August 29th, 2013, 04:23 PM   #58
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I just drove from the Soo to Minnesota and back last Friday and across 28 the speed traps are horrible. 55 then around a corner and 30 then up to 50 and back to 25 in just a couple of miles. And several sections where it drops to 50 from 55 so if you are pushing it a little at say 60, when you hit that spot then yer 10 over. Lots of police along that section.
I don't know if I completely agree with the law, but I believe that is one of the things the speed studies in MI is supposed to protect against, just making up arbitrary speed limits along the road like that.
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Old August 29th, 2013, 04:25 PM   #59
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It was pretty easily actually. The front of my car ran into the front of the other car.

Run into stuff much?
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Old August 29th, 2013, 04:28 PM   #60
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Run into stuff much?
Just once

I'm assuming you are talking about the other car mine was next to? That was in the towing yard, not my yard.
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