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Old August 29th, 2013, 09:05 AM   #21
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I also think I-75 north of Grayling should be 75 or 80.
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Old August 29th, 2013, 09:09 AM   #22
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Speed limits here on I40 are 80 in places and 75 on pretty much all the other highways. People out here drive differently than they do back in MI, but it's 50/50 for the most part....half the people drive 10mph under, the other half drive 20 over. I never had an issue with the 70mph limits in the LP but in the UP heading west it was god-awful having a 55mph speed limit. I assume those would not change though since 2/77/28/41 are all just 2-lane highways.
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Old August 29th, 2013, 09:09 AM   #23
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This would make the drive to Tech a little fast for my daughter.
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Old August 29th, 2013, 09:14 AM   #24
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This would make the drive to Tech a little fast for my daughter.
I feel her pain, i have driven from Toledo to Houghton right around 12 times and i hate getting to the UP. Its sucks.

As of now i am driving Houghton to Baraga everyday for an internship. I drive at 65 on the dot with just about every other driver on the road. The state troopers dont bother us much.
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Old August 29th, 2013, 09:19 AM   #25
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Yeah, I just know that whole route is 55, man it sucks going to see her.
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Old August 29th, 2013, 09:25 AM   #26
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Yeah, I just know that whole route is 55, man it sucks going to see her.
Drove that for 7 years to/from GR. Yeah, it sucks especially on the way there after you've been doing 80 for a few hours and have to slow it down to 60-65.
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Old August 29th, 2013, 09:27 AM   #27
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hmmmm................I wonder what hitting a pot hole at 80mph feels like in a smart car?
Even hitting a pothole at 30mph hurts, they only have 2 inches of uptravel in the front. Also 80 mph is about 4000 rpm in that little 3-cylinder.

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Old August 29th, 2013, 09:30 AM   #28
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Are there even any freeways in the UP? I don't think so. I think 80mph is honestly too fast for most of the UP. 65-70 is good and comfortable.

Multiple freeways in the LP should be 80, though.

Rather than arbitrarily change them the law should call for 85th percentile speed evaluations. http://www.michigan.gov/mdot/0,4616,...532--F,00.html Cliff notes: the best speed limit is the one at which 85% of drivers feel comfortable driving. Ever get a ticket for driving a comfortable 45 when you were in a 35? Odds are the speed limit was artificially low. Lots of cities have made these changes (eliminating speed traps) but highways have yet to catch up. Go figure, it's the MDOT guideline that MDOT isn't following.

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Old August 29th, 2013, 09:39 AM   #29
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I'm all for it. I spent enough time driving back and forth thru the UP and the risk of cops was the only logical reason for keeping it close to the 55mph speed limit. Certain stretches should definitely fall into the 70mph category(US 2, Seney stretch, etc). Deer and wildlife will be a risk, but not much more than they already are.
I would agree with you if they were divided highways.

The closing rate at 70 mph speedlimits to pass another vehicle would be pretty dangerous, add in the fact that most cars can accelerate around another car (or logging truck/tourbus/truck with a 5th wheel camper) fairly easily at 55 mph, but at 70+ mph most cars don't have that same amount of get up and go to get around safely.

That said, I usually average right around the speed limit or 5 over in most cases, I can't afford speeding tickets.

It's brutal in the UP. I do however wait for an interceptor and then just try to keep up with them from a safe distance for a while.
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Old August 29th, 2013, 09:40 AM   #30
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Are there even any freeways in the UP? I don't think so.
I-75 From St. Ignace to SSM, but that's it.
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Old August 29th, 2013, 09:43 AM   #31
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I would agree with you if they were divided highways.

The closing rate at 70 mph speedlimits to pass another vehicle would be pretty dangerous, add in the fact that most cars can accelerate around another car (or logging truck/tourbus/truck with a 5th wheel camper) fairly easily at 55 mph, but at 70+ mph most cars don't have that same amount of get up and go to get around safely.

That said, I usually average right around the speed limit or 5 over in most cases, I can't afford speeding tickets.

It's brutal in the UP. I do however wait for an interceptor and then just try to keep up with them from a safe distance for a while.
This. I usually kept it around 62 across the UP, I got pulled over for 65 twice and let off both times but it was enough to slow me down. I did get a ticket for doing 83 in a 55 in Marquette once though...oops.

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I-75 From St. Ignace to SSM, but that's it.
And this.
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Old August 29th, 2013, 09:46 AM   #32
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This. I usually kept it around 62 across the UP, I got pulled over for 65 twice and let off both times but it was enough to slow me down. I did get a ticket for doing 83 in a 55 in Marquette once though...oops.


Chocolay Township (Harvey, just before 28/41 merge and head into marquette)

110 in a 55...OOPS.

I try to keep it between 60-65 up there, I've been pulled over and clocked at 63, but was also let off. Like you, it was enough to remind me how expensive that other ticket was.
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Old August 29th, 2013, 09:49 AM   #33
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And this.
Ah, that's right, brain fart. Yeah, that could definitely be 80.
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Old August 29th, 2013, 10:02 AM   #34
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Chocolay Township (Harvey, just before 28/41 merge and head into marquette)

110 in a 55...OOPS.


That's pretty much where I got hit too. Headed South over that big hill before you come along the lake right after you turn off 41 onto 28. Some guy in a rusted out Bronco II wanted to race my SHO....I let off at 100 when the fuzzbuster started going apeshit, stabbed the brakes but it was a little too late...lesson learned(ish)...until I got a ticket for 105/75 here in NM
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Old August 29th, 2013, 10:20 AM   #35
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What about tractors and other farm implements on said country highways? Houses with kids along the highways?
I think they are mostly talking about increasing speed limits on freeways, not highways. There are no tractors, farm implements or kids along a freeway. At least they should not be there.
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Old August 29th, 2013, 10:26 AM   #36
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Cant wait until insurance doubles because of this
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Old August 29th, 2013, 10:28 AM   #37
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I also think I-75 north of Grayling should be 75 or 80.
north of Flint even...
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Old August 29th, 2013, 10:30 AM   #38
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They just sped up the stretch from St Johns to Ithaca a year ago or so. Local sheriff's complained saying saying people were going to die etc. The traffic study read that most the traffic was already doing 65-70 so it justified a limit raise.
So far it looks like there has been fewer accidentsso far.
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Old August 29th, 2013, 10:32 AM   #39
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Just bumping the highways up to 60-65 would be nice.
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Old August 29th, 2013, 10:53 AM   #40
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I would agree with you if they were divided highways.

The closing rate at 70 mph speedlimits to pass another vehicle would be pretty dangerous, add in the fact that most cars can accelerate around another car (or logging truck/tourbus/truck with a 5th wheel camper) fairly easily at 55 mph, but at 70+ mph most cars don't have that same amount of get up and go to get around safely.

That said, I usually average right around the speed limit or 5 over in most cases, I can't afford speeding tickets.

It's brutal in the UP. I do however wait for an interceptor and then just try to keep up with them from a safe distance for a while.
I agree, 70+ would be a bit much. There are quite a few passing lanes so I'm not sure how much difference your point would really make.
I kept it around 62-63mph 90% of the time and am one of the few I know of who never got a ticket going through the UP. Interceptors/decoys were always welcome along that drive. I think 65mph speed limits would be perfectly reasonable along most of the main routes through the UP.

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Just bumping the highways up to 60-65 would be nice.
Agreed. That'd be a reasonable speed and less chance of tickets
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