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Old August 28th, 2013, 04:39 PM   #41
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Old August 28th, 2013, 10:19 PM   #42
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Old August 28th, 2013, 11:00 PM   #43
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How will this affect all of us and our employers? will our premiums go up/down or will employers cost go up/down?
Your question will become moot. You will no longer be full time, you will have a 29 hour per week part time job and be buying the government plan out of pocket... or paying the fine.


...or more likely, unemployed.
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Old August 29th, 2013, 06:13 AM   #44
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Still, you do not have to go to college, but you will have to pay Obamacare tax if you choose not to obtain medical insurance.

Statistics lie. Statistically speaking, you are likely to be a hillbilly moron with crooked and / or missing teeth who was raped by his older gay brother. Where is the outrage?
Well I pulled it from the US dept of labor and statistics 2012, hillbilly.
"In October 2012, 66.2 percent of 2012 high school graduates were enrolled in colleges or universities, the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics reported today."
http://www.bls.gov/news.release/hsgec.nr0.htm
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Old August 29th, 2013, 09:48 AM   #45
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Well I pulled it from the US dept of labor and statistics 2012, hillbilly.
"In October 2012, 66.2 percent of 2012 high school graduates were enrolled in colleges or universities, the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics reported today."
http://www.bls.gov/news.release/hsgec.nr0.htm
First of all, you are missing the point, or perhaps are intentionally pulling this discussion off topic. This has nothing to do with health care.

Secondly, to answer your question about lack of outrage about cost of college going up, I repeat again: it is a choice, not a necessity. People value their health far more than college education.

There is no outrage because, statistically speaking, the ninja that voted for Obama have minimal interest in college education but great interest in free healthcare. Obama, just like Emperors of Rome deciding on whether to put a gladiator to death, listened to the populace and decided to take on health "reform" rather than to reform college education.

Thirdly, look up what Ben Disraeli so famously said about statistics. I work with these charlatans all my adult (BLS, ETA). CPS is very volatile. Beside that, the "news release" will not tell you how many of them will stay in college, how many will graduate, how many high school grads will go to college next year. Look at how many kids drop out of high school and how many are not even enrolled in high school. Calculate percentage of this cohort to the total population of this age group.

Anyway, all you did is get us off track from the health care discussion by bringing this irrelevant (to this topic) statistic.
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Old August 29th, 2013, 11:11 AM   #46
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It was signed in to law by those that are hired by us, to represent us, and they'll be out of office before it is fully launched. This is reason for outrage.
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Old August 29th, 2013, 11:16 AM   #47
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It was signed in to law by those that are hired by us, to represent us, and they'll be out of office before it is fully launched. This is reason for outrage.
on page 1496 of the Obama care law there is a clause that all elected officials will be exempt from any type of health care tax.
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on page 1496 of the Obama care law there is a clause that all elected officials will be exempt from any type of health care tax.
Any type and level of elected official? Is this only while in office or for life?
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It's easy to see who the 1% are....just go to Washington.
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on page 1496 of the Obama care law there is a clause that all elected officials will be exempt from any type of health care tax.
Proof?

The version I found only have 906 pages. http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/PLAW-11...111publ148.pdf
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Proof?

The version I found only have 906 pages. http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/PLAW-11...111publ148.pdf
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Proof?

The version I found only have 906 pages. http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/PLAW-11...111publ148.pdf
He probably read a chain mail that was floating around facebook.
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The version I found only have 906 pages. http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/PLAW-11...111publ148.pdf
Some legislation was just passed exempting them from it. I will see if I can dig it up. It's within this past month.


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It's Congress and their aides

http://www.examiner.com/article/memb...from-obamacare
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