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Old August 19th, 2013, 01:49 PM   #1
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I purchased a new house a few months back and I would like to setup the barn as a wood working shop. I kept my old house and barns so I have all my mechanical and metal working tools in my shop there. I am new and very dumb when it comes to wood working but I would like to get better at it and start doing some projects.

My list of projects

#1- insulate, drywall, wood stove, benches and shelves in new barn. It is a basically new 20x24 2 story barn with a concrete floor

#2-raised beds for the garden, lattice for the vine plants and a privacy fence around it to keep the dogs and other critters out.

#3- convert a bedroom in the basement to a reloading, gun smithing, fishing rod building, fly tying room. It will involve laminant wood floor to replace carpet, tables, shelving and cabinets.

#4- build a bar in the basement. I would like to build from scratch and make it one of a kind. This is a project I want to take my time on and make it very nice.

What tools should I get to get started? I don't plan on getting absolutely everything right away but I would like to start buying stuff as money allows while I am living in Colorado on a larger than normal paycheck. What brands and order of importance would you suggest for my list of projects? I can see this being a life long hobby so I would like to invest in descent equipment.

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Depends on what type of woodworking you want to do. Hobby & crafts, furniture, boats, etc. When I had my routing business, I was focused on my CNC router, table saw and planer for the bigger stuff. A variety of hand routers, power sanders, orbital, vibrating etc is nice. Multiple drill motors because it's a PITA to change bits back and forth. I had a 9" and 14" band saws and you need a good drill press. Good wood drill bits and good chisels are nice.

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With 20x24, you will need to be creative for woodworking. I would be looking at magazines/books for interesting projects and layouts.

Nice thing about woodworking as a hobby is you should be able to make all your benches and stuff exactly as you need them. Having big/nice tables for everything is a big plus. So things like the drill presses, we've make larger tables to do them to have more work area.

My dad has a large woodworking shop. I have a very small setup in my basement. Much will depend on what kind of projects you will be doing (like do you want to turn stuff on a lathe, or make cabinets, working with finished boards or rough materials, etc).

In a woodshop, I'd want a table saw, as nice of a router/table as I could get, some type of stationary sander, miter saw(or radial arm saw), band saw, drill press as the most basics. Moving up, a planer and a jointer, dust collection, and a lathe. I would want a couple work benches. I like to use particle board and then laminate it with plain white counter top laminate.

You might look into making things on wheels or other moveable bases. With that much clear space, you need to be able to set up to run boards through the table saw out a door, or you will be limited to about 10ft long workpieces. Good way to have an accident is running a board through a table saw that hits a wall or something before you have it through (or not having enough clear space so that it hits the blade while you are trying to get it into the saw). Having clear space is key for safety and function.
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space isn't a huge issue for me. If I get into larger things than I can't easily handle in this barn I can just go to my other workshop. My dad has a descent amount of wood working tools in my other barn. I bought my neighbors house so it will work out pretty good.

I need everything including hand held tools such as drills, saws, sanders ect. I am most definitely a noob when it comes to this stuff.

I'm guessing I am no longer a paying member so my mailbox got filled up. I will have to suck it up and drop another $12
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My projects will start fairly basic but I can see getting into fancier things as my skill level goes up.
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I have a wood shop in my basement with a door that leads directly to my garage. My suggestion for beginning tools is a table saw ( contractors is fine), 14 inch bandsaw, jointer (6 or 8 inch), chop saw, router table. Seriously think about a dust collection system. A shop vac won't cut it. Later you can add a drill press, belt sander and a planer.
I build from rough sawn. I am building a log cabin and making most all my cabinets, all trim boards, and even some ceiling boards.

When you are up and running practice up by making jigs, like a cross cut sled. Take your time and do these right and they will be your best friend on many projects.

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I paid the jeep Jew my $12 so now I get to wait until he reinstates my membership so I can get my pm's.

What do you guys suggest for hand tools?
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space isn't a huge issue for me. If I get into larger things than I can't easily handle in this barn I can just go to my other workshop. My dad has a descent amount of wood working tools in my other barn. I bought my neighbors house so it will work out pretty good.

I need everything including hand held tools such as drills, saws, sanders ect. I am most definitely a noob when it comes to this stuff.

I'm guessing I am no longer a paying member so my mailbox got filled up. I will have to suck it up and drop another $12
Well since you can't take pm's, I have a table saw and jointer for sale.
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I paid the jeep Jew my $12 so now I get to wait until he reinstates my membership so I can get my pm's.

What do you guys suggest for hand tools?

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Table Saw is the backbone of the shop.

Look used and find a good Delta, Jet or Powermatic. I'd love a sawstop 3/4 cabinet saw, but can't justify that cost.

Veritas, Stanley and woodriver produce nice hand tool. A good #4 or #4 1/2 hand plane is a good start, and a good set of chisels (read not from a home center)

I use most of my tools because i have them lol, but can do with less, my current roundup of most used
14" Jet Bandsaw
Jet 10" Combination Jointer/planer, compact, easy to convert to run as either or
Delta Contractors saw upgraded with Cast iron extensions and Biesemeyer Fence
Drill press with homebuilt woodworking table, easily removed for metal work
Ridgid Oscillating Belt/ Drum sander
A ton of Routers
Homebuilt router table
Festool TS55
Festool Domino Joiner
Leigh Dovetail Jig
Black and Decker Radial Arm saw
Delta Midi Lathe
Wide selection of handtools, chisels, planes, rasps, files, card scrapers etc

With hand tools a lot of the older one's are worth putting some time into to clean up, maybe purchase a new blade.

Also, Kreg Pocket hole jig, great tool to have around, i used it on two different projects today.

Also, good measuring/ marking instruments. I like starret combination squares and double squares, and pfeil marking knives



Also, as a side note, just finally ran 3/4" copper lines in the garage for air distribution. Only been in a week and am kicking myself for not doing it sooner, I LOVE IT
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I have a safety speed cut panel saw model H5 I'd sell for $1200 if you know anyone looking. Like this one, but older. http://www.sears.com/safety-speed-cu...REDIRECT=false
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Good information so far, thanks a lot everybody!

Any pictures of your workshops, tools, organizational systems, jigs, ect?
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Start buying clamps now. By the time your shop is ready, you might have enough ;)
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http://www.woodmagazine.com/ideas/wood-shop-showcase/

Every year Wood Magazine publishes their "Idea Shop" edition with a combination of plans submitted by readers and some from their professional staff. Lots of ideas, lots of space-saving tips. Lowes and Home Depot usually stock the annual shop plan edition, I have some old ones I can ship you if you are interested.
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Lies! I have been accumulating them for 20 years, and still never have enough.
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Lies! I have been accumulating them for 20 years, and still never have enough.
I hear ya!

I think I am going to build my dad a panel clamping rack, since we do a lot of that. We built my dining room table from ash trees that we had to cut due to ash borer. It would have have been nice to have a rack for clamping the boards after planing.

I'm thinking something that is almost vertical, like 60-70 degrees upright on wheels so it can be pushed away when not needed.
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I really like my shopsmith. It's a lathe, drill press, bandsaw, planer, jointer, table saw, sander, belt sander all-in-one. No joke. Was my grandfathers. If you can get a hold of one without restoring it, it'd be worth it.

I'm using my bandsaw more than my table saw though.
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Here's the clamp rack i just finished up a few weeks ago.

Didn't fit all of them but got most of the K body on there, and still need storage for the 82" ones.



Everything else has a current project on it right now, will take a few pics once i finish up in the next day or two.
I can say for a small shop, rolling bases, and making the most of any space. i.e. my cabinet has levels, hammers, bolt cutters, saws hanging on the outer doors for easy access and using the plain area of the doors.
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