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Old August 10th, 2013, 11:56 AM   #1
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Old August 10th, 2013, 01:59 PM   #2
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Old August 10th, 2013, 03:28 PM   #3
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Human beings are fish? Did we have gills or lungs?
Nobody could name a transitional fossil. Change of kind, only crickets churping.
And they say Christians that believe in Intelligent Design are crazy.
Ray Comfort does have a good way of making his point, most seem to listen to him without getting offended but I have seen a few get angry with him.
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Old August 10th, 2013, 08:59 PM   #4
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My feeling about this is that religion is really ancient science, meaning ancient mans attempt to explain how we got here and where we're headed. Religion is what happens when people accept something on faith that can't be proven.

It was a mistake to do this thousands of years ago, it's a mistake to do it today.
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Old August 10th, 2013, 09:06 PM   #5
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Human beings are fish? Did we have gills or lungs?
Nobody could name a transitional fossil. Change of kind, only crickets churping.
And they say Christians that believe in Intelligent Design are crazy.
Ray Comfort does have a good way of making his point, most seem to listen to him without getting offended but I have seen a few get angry with him.
Every fossil is a transitional fossil. Every creature that has ever existed is a transition from it's parents to it's children. Even you. "change of kind" is just many of these minute changes multiplied by millions of generations.

BTW there are fish with lungs.
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Old August 10th, 2013, 09:06 PM   #6
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Old August 10th, 2013, 09:26 PM   #7
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Old August 11th, 2013, 07:02 AM   #9
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Every fossil is a transitional fossil. Every creature that has ever existed is a transition from it's parents to it's children. Even you. "change of kind" is just many of these minute changes multiplied by millions of generations.

BTW there are fish with lungs.
Creatures do change, adaptive in a way. There is micro evolution and macro evolution.
We do have a platypus(sp) is that something in transition? Its always been that way it will not turn into something else.
When we find bones of a cat to a dog or something in between then you have something.
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Creatures do change, adaptive in a way. There is micro evolution and macro evolution.
We do have a platypus(sp) is that something in transition? Its always been that way it will not turn into something else.
When we find bones of a cat to a dog or something in between then you have something.
You obviously don't care enough about the topic to even do the most basic of research to understand it. There are, quite literally, sixth graders that have a better understanding of this topic and could debate it much more intelligently than you EVER could.

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Old August 11th, 2013, 10:10 AM   #11
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Creatures do change, adaptive in a way. There is micro evolution and macro evolution.
We do have a platypus(sp) is that something in transition? Its always been that way it will not turn into something else.
When we find bones of a cat to a dog or something in between then you have something.
Here you go, a list of fossils showing a transition from ape like creatures to modern humans.

List_of_human_evolution_fossils List_of_human_evolution_fossils
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You obviously don't care enough about the topic to even do the most basic of research to understand it. There are, quite literally, sixth graders that have a better understanding of this topic and could debate it much more intelligently than you EVER could.

You're such a meany
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Here you go, a list of fossils showing a transition from ape like creatures to modern humans.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...lution_fossils
Your link shows a lot of skulls that they claim are millions of years old. How does anything last that long without turning to dust?

Darwin saying there is a lack of transitional fossils and can't explain why.


Charles Darwin wrote in Origins that the lack of transitional fossils were, in fact, the greatest problem for his theory. In 1979, Dr. Colin Patterson wrote a letter containing this statement:

"I fully agree with your comments on the lack of direct illustration of evolutionary transitions in my book. If I knew of any, fossil or living, I would certainly have included them. You suggest that an artist should be used to visualize such transformations, but where would he get the information from? I could not, honestly, provide it, and if I were to leave it to artistic license, would that not mislead the reader? - See more at: http://www.creationworldview.org/art....wyHropmn.dpuf
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The dead horse has risen.......
and this could be understood by a 6th grader.

http://www.creationworldview.org/articles_view.asp?id=1
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Old August 11th, 2013, 12:46 PM   #14
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Here you go, a list of fossils showing a transition from ape like creatures to modern humans.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...lution_fossils
and from non-primates to primates? Look it up, doesn't exist.
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Old August 11th, 2013, 02:34 PM   #15
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You're such a meany
There now we're even.



Your link shows a lot of skulls that they claim are millions of years old. How does anything last that long without turning to dust?

Darwin saying there is a lack of transitional fossils and can't explain why.


Charles Darwin wrote in Origins that the lack of transitional fossils were, in fact, the greatest problem for his theory. In 1979, Dr. Colin Patterson wrote a letter containing this statement:

"I fully agree with your comments on the lack of direct illustration of evolutionary transitions in my book. If I knew of any, fossil or living, I would certainly have included them. You suggest that an artist should be used to visualize such transformations, but where would he get the information from? I could not, honestly, provide it, and if I were to leave it to artistic license, would that not mislead the reader? - See more at: http://www.creationworldview.org/art....wyHropmn.dpuf
Darwin died in 1882. Most of the fossils in that list were found more recently than that.

The quote form Dr. Colin Patterson is just an admission that we do not have enough proof to remove all doubt. That does not disprove the theory.
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The dead horse has risen.......
and this could be understood by a 6th grader.

http://www.creationworldview.org/articles_view.asp?id=1
I didn't read the whole thing, but I did catch this part:

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If evolutionism does not line up with what the Bible says, then it is evil. It is evil because it is in opposition to Gods declared purposes. There is only one standard for right and wrong and that is Gods opinion. If your opinion does not line up with Gods opinion then your opinion is wrong. Every thought you think is either going to be done in obedience to God or in disobedience to God.
No further meaningful discussion can take place if that is your belief.

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No further meaningful discussion can take if that is your belief.
And not just for this thread.
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and from non-primates to primates? Look it up, doesn't exist.
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Yup we still have these running around today, they call them squirrels.

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I didn't read the whole thing, but I did catch this part:



No further meaningful discussion can take place if that is your belief.
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And not just for this thread.
That's bull.

If something did create the universe, and has a purpose for it's created, you're saying that it's created should be able to say "you're wrong" to said Creator because they think so? Do you see the flawed thinking in that? That paragraph was a nice way of saying "if you're not for him, your against him". He has every right to declare what is right and wrong because he created everything.


Personally, I don't care if you believe in either Creationism or Evolution. I think both can be used to point to God. I also don't see evolution as against God. Do I accept Marco evolution? No. I don't.

I found this video interesting because it tested the people's mind on what they knew or didn't. It also showed to them that there is an amount of faith involved in even science. Unless you're the actual scientist, you're taking the information with faith that the person did the proper work. Which, IMO, is no different then taking the word of God with faith that those that wrote it were writing it for the purpose of showing God's story.
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