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Old February 10th, 2016, 08:45 PM   #1
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OK Flame on!

But in all seriousness, I picked up my 72 year old dad from the airport today, haven't seen him in a few months. He went vegan for health reasons just over a year ago. At that time his blood pressure was through the roof and he was on about eight different medications for various crap. He is now off everything, and I noticed he looked great. His skin and such looks much better. He says he doesn't get cold as easy anymore and his circulation is great. Plus his blood pressure is now perfect. His dieting bible is "The China Study" which I just ordered up to check out.

I am in pretty good health at 36. I have struggled with a Casein (milk protein) intolerance that flares up and down over the last few years due to what is most likely Celiac disease (intestinal thing, won't kill me, don't worry lol). I am probably 25 pounds overweight, which sheds pretty quick when I avoid dairy. However my blood pressure is quite high and my circulation sucks. I am not over worried and such, but stroke and heart issues do run in my family. I know I need to do something.

I have "watched what I ate" in the past, went vegetarian for about four months one time, avoided dairy and fried food for a year with only occasional red meat, and my blood pressure and such has stayed high.

So, I'm seriously considering trying my dad's Vegan diet for health reasons, not for tree hugging hippie reasons. I'm curious, has anyone else here tried it? Success or horror stories?

And yes I love a good cow on my plate as much as the next guy. The question is am I willing to forgo it for another few years of heath?

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Old February 10th, 2016, 08:54 PM   #2
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My question is what was his diet before? Did he go from eating garbage to vegan, or was he eating pretty healthy and stopped eating meats?
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My question is what was his diet before? Did he go from eating garbage to vegan, or was he eating pretty healthy and stopped eating meats?
Both. He ate everything. He was never overweight, super active for someone his age. Still puts in 60 plus hours a week at work. His metabolism is crazy, and before, his favorite foods were gas station pizza and chicken with faygo and five pounds of sugar in his coffee a week...seriously, he used a five pound bag of sugar a week in his coffee. But, he would also chow down broccoli, cauliflower, fruits and veggies like crazy. So yeah, crap. But he did go vegetarian for a year or so with no results. This, well this has worked.
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My mom is 67 and she is vegetarian. Her protein consists of seafood and tofu.
When I visit I have to leave within an hour. She nags me worse now than when I was a teenager..........
So she is even healthier now then when she use to smoke and drink beer.
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My mom is 67 and she is vegetarian. Her protein consists of seafood and tofu.
When I visit I have to leave within an hour. She nags me worse now than when I was a teenager..........
So she is even healthier now then when she use to smoke and drink beer.
Tofu....blech! I could do seafood, huge sushi fan. I don't think I could give that up!
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Right after my vegan girlfriend moved in, I had a little full arrest.
285lbs, total cholesterol 432.
She cracked the whip and cut everything I liked out of my diet.
Man, could she cook. Everything tasted like bacon or pudding without the bad stuff.
Four years down the road I'm hanging 220lbs, LDL 98.

The trick with her was she had brilliant recipes that made healthy cholesterol free meal that tasted great.
It works.
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OK Flame on!

But in all seriousness, I picked up my 72 year old dad from the airport today, haven't seen him in a few months. He went vegan for health reasons just over a year ago. At that time his blood pressure was through the roof and he was on about eight different medications for various crap. He is now off everything, and I noticed he looked great. His skin and such looks much better. He says he doesn't get cold as easy anymore and his circulation is great. Plus his blood pressure is now perfect. His dieting bible is "The China Study" which I just ordered up to check out.

I am in pretty good health at 36. I have struggled with a Casein (milk protein) intolerance that flares up and down over the last few years due to what is most likely Celiac disease (intestinal thing, won't kill me, don't worry lol). I am probably 25 pounds overweight, which sheds pretty quick when I avoid dairy. However my blood pressure is quite high and my circulation sucks. I am not over worried and such, but stroke and heart issues do run in my family. I know I need to do something.

I have "watched what I ate" in the past, went vegetarian for about four months one time, avoided dairy and fried food for a year with only occasional red meat, and my blood pressure and such has stayed high.

So, I'm seriously considering trying my dad's Vegan diet for health reasons, not for tree hugging hippie reasons. I'm curious, has anyone else here tried it? Success or horror stories?

And yes I love a good cow on my plate as much as the next guy. The question is am I willing to forgo it for another few years of heath?
Your 36!!! I thought you were much older lol. Anyway I just ordered the China study myself. I'll be 38 in a little over a week. I am 5'11" and 290lbs. BP is high so that's my main reason to try it. A coworker turned me on to it. He was over weight high BP and now like your Dad all is good no meds! Worth a try for sure.
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Old February 11th, 2016, 05:03 AM   #8
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I'm no health expert but can pass this along. Our close friends (Keith you met them at your parent's Christmas show) have a son who is a professional stunt actor for Warner Brothers. He lives an interesting life. He'about 36 and has traveled the world doing wild water ski show stuff. For the last 5-6 years he has been doing a Water World gig in Germany, Japan and now in Singapore. He went Vegetarian a few years ago. I think his reasoning was primarily "just because". Anyway, after a period of time, he started getting more injuries including broken bones doing stunts that had never been a problem. He came to the conclusion that it was his diet. He went back to eating meat and his problems went away.

Now, I will grant you that is the most non-scientific story you will hear but it's something to consider for an active person. This guy is ripped. (not sure if this pic is visible since I copied it from facebook)

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A lot of it is person to person. Yes, you cut junk out of your diet, you are healthier. You reduce calories from not eating calorie dense food, you'll lose weight.

If you aren't getting all of your nutrition, things will go wrong (likely the case from wr above)

I personally couldn't do it. Take into account the paleo diet on the flip side.

All I can say is try it and see what works. I don't think there is a diet that works for every single individual.... Except on this site, the masturbation diet might actually fit the bill. Yes, there is a doctor that created a diet where you go masturbate every time you are hungry between meals to help cut out snacking... And replace it with fapping
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Old February 11th, 2016, 05:55 AM   #10
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Yeah..... but..... bacon.
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Old February 11th, 2016, 06:26 AM   #11
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Old February 11th, 2016, 06:55 AM   #12
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Until Kickstand chimes in, this thread is useless.
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Old February 11th, 2016, 07:06 AM   #14
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A couple of years ago my mom (medically) was in the same position as ur pops is. However she was overweight and a lifelong smoker. She quit smoking, started walking every day 1-2 miles, and cut her portion size of meals along with pretty well eliminated things like butter and sour cream. She has lost 100lbs and is off all her meds. She was taking 8-10 pills a day for blood pressure, high sugar, etc. So I think it can be done without eliminating anything completely. We all know moderation is the key for most but as stated above there is no 1 answer for everyone.
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everything in moderation.

I dont think cutting meat out of your diet is going to be a cure all. However, if you are eating overly salted red meat daily, YES, of course you are going to have issues. If you eat nothing but rabbit food you will also develop issues. Your body needs all sorts of different nutrients that it gets from all sorts of different food groups.

with a little exercise you would be surprised how your body feels. Every diet you read has small print that says "with proper diet AND EXERCISE"...

To the OP. I bet your dad also started walking more or doing something?
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Please preach the trewff brother.
casein intolerance does not equal celiacs disease.
casein can inflame anyone's gut.
celiacs = an intolerance to the gluten protein found in wheat, rye, and barley.

casein CAN inflame those with celiacs disease more frequently than others.

If you had celiacs disease, you'd know it, and yes, it CAN kill you.

I think vegan diets are stupid.

Just stop eating junk out of boxes and you'll be much better off.
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casein intolerance does not equal celiacs disease.
casein can inflame anyone's gut.
celiacs = an intolerance to the gluten protein found in wheat, rye, and barley.

casein CAN inflame those with celiacs disease more frequently than others.

If you had celiacs disease, you'd know it, and yes, it CAN kill you.

I think vegan diets are stupid.

Just stop eating junk out of boxes and you'll be much better off.
Advice from Kickstand that I have been following for years now.

I might also add, "FAD Diets" are stupid. You want to know how quick one of your internal organs can shut down? Just eat only certain foods and cut out completely what one of these "FAD Diets" tell you to.

After going on the Diabetic Diet recommended by my DR. I almost ended up killing myself with a 6mm acidic Kidney stone that managed to get stuck in the tube. This was caused by (and get this) too much spinach, asparagus, broccoli, and all around iron in my diet.
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My diet consists of a very relaxed paleo diet. I follow the principals of it, but I don't adhere to it with 100% strictness. I'm able to eat whenever I feel like it and maintain a healthy weight pretty easily. I'm sure it helps that I'm pretty active.

I still eat bread, and gluten and such. I still eat Dairy. But I eat both in very low frequencies.

I mainly eat fruit, nuts, vegetables, and lean protein.

When i do eat bread, or pasta, I eat the least processed options available on the particular shelf I'm looking at.

When I eat cereal I eat things like cheerios, raisin bran, chex, etc. I avoid cinnamon toast crunch, fruity pebbles, etc.

I drink beer, but I don't usually have more than 1 or 2 at a time anymore.

I really like pasta, alfredo specifically, but creamy sauces are filled with shit, so I don't eat things like that very frequently, But I do eat spaghetti squash with home made tomato sauce, lean ground beef, and also mix in yellow squash and zuccini.

FAD diets are STUPID. John is right. Just learn to eat right and stop labeling it a diet.
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