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Old July 13th, 2013, 06:01 PM   #1
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I bought a little millermatic 140 autoset this week to do some small welding projects during the restoration of a 1967 BSA A65 Lightning I picked up a few weeks ago. Main things are body work repairs and welding a few small tabs back onto the frame of the bike.

In the mean time, for practicing my welding skills I want to build a small fab table and welding cart.

I'd like the fab table top to be about 40"x21"x3/8" and the height to be 36" tall to match my wood work bench and fit in the space I have available in my garage.

My question is which size tube should I use to fab the base of the table? Home Crapo sells 1"x16 gauge tubing in lengths that I need, its pricey but I can get it now, wondering if that will be sufficient or if I should wait until monday and try to get to Pontiac steel for something more substantial like 1.5" or 2" tube. I plan on using pontiac steel for the top but they close at 4 and I have a hard time getting there during the day so getting the tube at the depot would be ok for me.

Or just use angle?

My welder is only rated to do 3/16" steel, I figure I can probably go a little higher for table top since it's just to keep it from moving.
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Old July 13th, 2013, 06:24 PM   #2
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I would want something a bit beefier than 1" tube, it bends pretty easy. You will get a lot better price at pontiac steel.

My welding table has 2" x 2" x 1/4" thick angle iron, with various cross braces. The top weighs about 500 lbs.
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If it were me i would build the bench out of wood 2 and 4x4's. Then make a frame out of cheap 1x1 square tube with an X through the middle. Weld your frame to the steel top. then through bolt the whole thing to the wooded bench. It'll be solid as a rock you can weld on top of it all day and it won't hurt the wood underneath because it'll be spaced away from the heat, and it'll be way cheaper then building the whole thing from steel.
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I have a 24"x36"x1/4" piece of plate with a big old vice bolted to it sitting on a set of plastic saw horses. One day I might make legs if I end up with enough scrap laying around to do so.
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If it were me i would build the bench out of wood 2 and 4x4's. Then make a frame out of cheap 1x1 square tube with an X through the middle. Weld your frame to the steel top. then through bolt the whole thing to the wooded bench. It'll be solid as a rock you can weld on top of it all day and it won't hurt the wood underneath because it'll be spaced away from the heat, and it'll be way cheaper then building the whole thing from steel.
If I were building a welding table I would not do it like this.....

My table is 4'x8' with a 3/8" top. It has 2x4 box tube frame and 6 legs with level adjustment feet so it can be leveled up. My other welding table is a roll around with a 1/4" top. I use the roll around for small projects. Ill see if I can find pics.
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If I were building a welding table I would not do it like this.....

My table is 4'x8' with a 3/8" top. It has 2x4 box tube frame and 6 legs with level adjustment feet so it can be leveled up. My other welding table is a roll around with a 1/4" top. I use the roll around for small projects. Ill see if I can find pics.
If I were to ad legs to mine I would want it on casters that are threaded on so they can be used to level the table as well.
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If I were to ad legs to mine I would want it on casters that are threaded on so they can be used to level the table as well.
This is why I love having 2 benches. My roll around has a tool box, holders for hammers, pry bars, ect, and a vice mounted to it. 2/3 of it is a table and the other 1/3 is open with just the frame around it for setting axles on. It sucks ass putting axles on a flat bench. I use this bench to roll around my shop as a "do all". My big table is level and stationary for bigger projects.

I looked for pics but I can find any on my phone and I would take some but I am 1,200 miles from home for another few months.
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Small project table I built using a scrap wheel laying flat on the ground, 4" pipe welded to the wheel, and a 3" pipe that will slide inside it welded to the underside of the table. Couple of T-Bolts through the 4" pipe to hold it in place, and shazaam, you have an adjustable height table for various projects. Tip it a bit, and you can roll it anywhere in the shop.

Extra points for a 1/2 thick slice of the tube welded to the side of the tabletop for the mig gun to go through, and to clamp your ground on.

Wood on a welding table is not a good idea, unless you want to burn down your shop
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My table is 4'x8' 5/8" top with 2x2 1/4 wall tube on 6" lockable casters. The table weighs in at around 1500#.

If I were you I would not use anything smaller then 2x2 3/16 wall for the legs that way you can put just about anything on it and not worry about it not being able to hole it up.
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You could just buy one already done. 36" high and damn near the size your looking for.

http://flint.craigslist.org/tls/3806369231.html

I found that having a pallet jack makes moving heavy items like this around easier. If you are able to borrow one from you work or a buddys workplace it will make getting it onto the trailer and positioning it in the garage very easy.

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sometimes I wish I had my fab table from work.

51" x 59" x 3" top with 6"x6"x1/4" square tube legs. It is a light weight.
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at my last place of employment we had a 3'x5'x1" die plate with 1/4 4x4" square welded to it for legs.

it was nice.
and it was flat.
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Being an auction hound, keep an eye open online.

Last year I picked up a 2.5'x10'x1" thick top table for under $400. Blanchard ground top and bottom, 4"x4" frame with 1" base pads and leveling screws. Its a huge bitch!
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Last year I picked up a 2.5'x10'x1" thick top table for under $400. Blanchard ground top and bottom, 4"x4" frame with 1" base pads and leveling screws. Its a huge bitch!
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This is the one I built for my small mig welder. I wanted a cart/table in one that was easy to move around. The frame is 2x2 1/4 angle. The top I used 2x6 wood then put a piece of sheet metal over top. The top was pretty solid and never caught on fire:)
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I"ll wait to get to pontiac steel, the home depot stuff as suggested just looks chinsy and it is expensive.

I think ultimately I will use 1.5" or 2" 1/8" wall tube, my goal is to have an angled cart that will tuck under the table so I can still move the welder but have a solid table to make projects on. I'd need a bigger welder to justify having any bigger of a table though. That's down the road.
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If it were me i would build the bench out of wood 2 and 4x4's. Then make a frame out of cheap 1x1 square tube with an X through the middle. Weld your frame to the steel top. then through bolt the whole thing to the wooded bench. It'll be solid as a rock you can weld on top of it all day and it won't hurt the wood underneath because it'll be spaced away from the heat, and it'll be way cheaper then building the whole thing from steel.
and then that would defeat half the purpose of his proposed project.
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I don't fab often enough to justify taking up the floor space. When I need to do some welding I typically set up an old card table and throw a piece of 3/4" plywood over the top. Not the best but it's simple and portable.
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