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Old August 14th, 2013, 08:47 PM   #221
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good idea and try.
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Old August 14th, 2013, 08:52 PM   #222
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good idea and try.
x2. Probably just need a more remote area.
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Old August 14th, 2013, 08:52 PM   #223
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Thoroughly disappointed.
Thanks to phittie, WR and all others who put themselves out there in hopes of making this happen.
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Old August 14th, 2013, 08:57 PM   #224
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Probably need more people who aren't just one sided and refusing to listen to the other side and listen to fact and then form an opinion. Not just go in all angry and closed minded.
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Old August 14th, 2013, 08:58 PM   #225
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Early on when this site first came up I thought this was too congested. But I figured that with Oakland County parks behind it, I thought it would work.

I was wrong.
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Old August 14th, 2013, 09:02 PM   #226
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Well that's what you get for attempting to reason with people who do not want to listen to reason. You guys should have went in there getting loud, voicing fiction not fact, and refused to listen to the local residents. Your attempts to explain how the sport will be a positive impact to the area is nothing more than a wolf in sheeps clothing to the locals. You should have lost your cool, you should have shown your emotions, you should have gotten loud. Complainers always win, every time. You guys should have complained, and you should have done it irrationally. And I spent many years riding dirt bikes in said area, it would have been awesome to make into a legal spot
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Old August 14th, 2013, 09:07 PM   #227
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The one board member said something along the lines of he didn't like out of towners telling him how to run his town, unless I misunderstood what he said.
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Old August 14th, 2013, 09:14 PM   #228
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Mike told me about the meeting. I am sad but proud because it sounds like you guys had a good showing.
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Old August 14th, 2013, 09:14 PM   #229
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By the halfway point of the meeting I knew it was over, we tried.
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Old August 14th, 2013, 09:17 PM   #230
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So from coming from this meeting...

A: not one person on that board seemed to care about the ORV concept..

B: oxford people think exhaust will cause cancer

C: personal thought, the mounds needs to be taken over and cleaned up... apparently off their Facebook the runt of our sport post comments and pics of them destroying the trans and land. Which is a not good publicity for out sport and the majority of the users.

All in all, good efforts for those that have been working on it, from my seat it looked like a up hill battle.
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Old August 14th, 2013, 09:21 PM   #231
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Did anyone get cancer from listening to the idiots?
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Old August 14th, 2013, 09:25 PM   #232
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Sounds like the same arguments that were used when Owosso was trying to ban campfires and grilling.
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Old August 14th, 2013, 09:27 PM   #233
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I was waiting for a resident to say they can hear the mounds from Oxford.
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Old August 14th, 2013, 09:31 PM   #234
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Thanks to everyone that showed up and put in the time. It sounds like we may have lost this scenario but a SE Michigan ORV area WILL happen someday... hopefully before I am dead.

For the record I don't have any reason to go to Oxford and with the sounds of the residents there I will go out of my way to not go through that area.


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Old August 14th, 2013, 09:32 PM   #235
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This goose is cooked, there will ever be an ORV park in the area
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Old August 14th, 2013, 09:37 PM   #236
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I wish I could have made it. I had some family stuff come up last minute and wouldn't have been able to make it up there until probably 730-8. I'm almost glad I wasn't there though. I can't deal with ignorant fawks and I would have lost my cool arguing all the stupid.

It's a bummer that this didn't go through. Like tweak said, I will have no reason to drive through Oxford.

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Well loosing your cool would have put in the same class as them... this is where being the adult needs to take place...
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I know and I understand that. I feel that logic hardly ever wins. You have one side telling facts, and the other side saying ORV parks cause cancer and crime. I just don't understand how people can be so stupid.

Well, I guess now we know who drinks the kool aid!



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Old August 14th, 2013, 09:46 PM   #239
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Well loosing your cool would have put in the same class as them... this is where being the adult needs to take place...
Great idea Benny, looks like keeping your cool really won the day...same thing with island lake too...keeping your cool with these people does nothing but enforce the fact that you are a wolf in sheeps clothing. The squeaky wheel will always get the grease. Can you ever give me an example where being calm, collected and speaking with a voice of reason has ever won....didn't think so. You have to loose your cool, you have to play with emotions...
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The majority of city folk just see rednecks like they see on TV. I think in this new 'green' era the likelihood of a *new* park near an large city is a pipe dream.

It was worth a shot though. Thank you to everyone that was able to show up on our behalf.
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