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Old July 28th, 2013, 01:31 PM   #1
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So anyway I'm reading online about deer hunting there is a proposal to change antler requirements. Some want to allow bucks with a certain size rack to be taking. I guess the thinking is older bucks?
So here's what I don't understand.
If I hunt do I not want the "food" or do I only want the "rack".
Wouldn't a smaller/ younger buck have better meat.
If your a hunter you want food?
If your a sportsman/woman you only care about rack?
I never understood any sports either.
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Old July 28th, 2013, 01:37 PM   #2
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fawn meat is even tastier
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Linking the story so we know what you were talking about might help.
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I don't hunt, but I can understand hunting for food. I never could understand trophy hunting. Perhaps the hunters here can enlighten us.
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Linking the story so we know what you were talking about might help.
Not really one story. I saw it on 9&10web site then looked around for more.
http://www.9and10news.com/story/2254...t-restrictions
It's a proposal, either Michigan antler restriction proposal or just antler restriction that should work.
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I am all for antler restrictions.

I hunt for both food and a trophy....the food part is generally easy as there are tons of mature does out there. Putting antler restrictions in place will do nothing to change that and will do nothing to inhibit people in their quest to fill the freezer. It is no different than size requirements on fish.

As far as trophy hunting goes....neither my hunting buddy or I will shoot a small buck...
They have to be ~120" deer before we consider it. We let them walk and get bigger and we are starting to see some results from this (see pic).....that said nothing irritates me more than seeing a neighbor kill a small buck i have passed on a dozen times just because it has antlers.

Edit: yes the bucks we take are food also....not just a trophy

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I am all for antler restrictions.

I hunt for both food and a trophy....the food part is generally easy as there are tons of mature does out there. Putting antler restrictions in place will do nothing to change that and will do nothing to inhibit people in their quest to fill the freezer. It is no different than size requirements on fish.

As far as trophy hunting goes....neither my hunting buddy or I will shoot a small buck...
They have to be ~120" deer before we consider it. We let them walk and get bigger and we are starting to see some results from this (see pic).....that said nothing irritates me more than seeing a neighbor kill a small buck i have passed on a dozen times just because it has antlers.

Edit: yes the bucks we take are food also....not just a trophy

That's reasonable. I have heard secondhand stories of meat going to waste in pursuit of trophies. Any truth to that?
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Some a-holes will shoot deer, cut off the head and take the tenderloins and leave the rest to rot. These people should be gutted alive.

I agree with the antler restrictions and allowing bucks to mature before harvesting them. Too many hunters shoot at the first twig snap just to fill a tag and try to brag on the german shepard size deer they got.
I also agree that fawns taste better, and easier to shoot since they have spots to aim at. Doe meat tastes better than buck if you are going for food only. But, its nice to look at some nice horns on the wall while eating grilled game and drinking beer.
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That's reasonable. I have heard secondhand stories of meat going to waste in pursuit of trophies. Any truth to that?

It's entirely possible which is unfortunate.

There are tons of people who will gladly take the meat if you do not want it ( i have numerous people ask every year)....there is no reason to waste the edible parts of the animal.
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I am all for antler restrictions.

I hunt for both food and a trophy....the food part is generally easy as there are tons of mature does out there. Putting antler restrictions in place will do nothing to change that and will do nothing to inhibit people in their quest to fill the freezer. It is no different than size requirements on fish.

As far as trophy hunting goes....neither my hunting buddy or I will shoot a small buck...
They have to be ~120" deer before we consider it. We let them walk and get bigger and we are starting to see some results from this (see pic).....that said nothing irritates me more than seeing a neighbor kill a small buck i have passed on a dozen times just because it has antlers.

Edit: yes the bucks we take are food also....not just a trophy


I was gonna post but this pretty much sums it up.
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Old July 28th, 2013, 03:15 PM   #14
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Anyone who kills ANY animal solely as a trophy, takes their little piece and leaves the rest to rot deserves the exact same fate.
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Antler restrictions to me are a joke. Maybe a statewide rule would help. The parcels I hunt are small, and the deer might not live after I pass it up. I am a meat hunter more than a horn hunter, and actually the biggest deer I have taken was the worst tasting.
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Some a-holes will shoot deer, cut off the head and take the tenderloins and leave the rest to rot. These people should be gutted alive.

I agree with the antler restrictions and allowing bucks to mature before harvesting them. Too many hunters shoot at the first twig snap just to fill a tag and try to brag on the german shepard size deer they got.
I also agree that fawns taste better, and easier to shoot since they have spots to aim at. Doe meat tastes better than buck if you are going for food only. But, its nice to look at some nice horns on the wall while eating grilled game and drinking beer.
Some of those aholes happen to hunt in lapeer in the state game area there. 2 years ago I hunted out there and near the end of the season on my birthday I went out to get my stand which had a 5/8 cable locking it up was stolen and two deer in the parking lot with one head gone antlers off the others and backstraps missing rest was left to rot. What pissed me off was I was out there two days before and just missed them to where I may have been able to still save the meat.
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give me a 90lb corn fed doe anyday.
antlers dont mean squat to me.
i would never shoot a button buck or small spike though.
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I'm for the antler restrictions. Every year I pass on four points and under, and even an occasional six er. I watch them walk on the past the property line and wham, the neighbor shot it.

I hunt for meat, but refuse to shoot a little buck. I understand the proposal for the restrictions, and think that is great.

If you are hunting for meat, you should just shoot a doe anyways, not whatever moves. Around my area there are 6 does to every buck, and the bucks never get big because of the Amish and the city slicker neighbors and general white trash in the area.

I've also had to deal with my fair share of trespassers, almost getting shot, and ruined hunts from the neighbors hooting and hollering after shooting their tiny deer. I'm talking the throw it over your shoulder, not even gutted size deer.

The "rules" for the land I hunt is that it needs to be six or better, or four on one side (it has flip flopped over the years). If you shoot an undersized buck or a button buck, you do dishes until the next schmuck does it. The buck rules don't count if it is your first. If you shoot a tiny doe you get ridiculed for ever and ever. Becoming the butt of every deer hunters joke.
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I am all for antler restrictions.

I hunt for both food and a trophy....the food part is generally easy as there are tons of mature does out there. Putting antler restrictions in place will do nothing to change that and will do nothing to inhibit people in their quest to fill the freezer. It is no different than size requirements on fish.

As far as trophy hunting goes....neither my hunting buddy or I will shoot a small buck...
They have to be ~120" deer before we consider it. We let them walk and get bigger and we are starting to see some results from this (see pic).....that said nothing irritates me more than seeing a neighbor kill a small buck i have passed on a dozen times just because it has antlers.

Edit: yes the bucks we take are food also....not just a trophy

Well put...
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