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Old July 21st, 2013, 06:28 PM   #1
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Now that .22lr ammo is near impossible to buy, I wonder what type of rifle you would buy for range shooting? Preferrably semi-auto, but would also consider a bolt action. Factors should include availability and cost of ammo in addition to performance of the rifle. We live south of the 96 corridor, so it won't get used much for hunting, although my son is headed to the U.P. so maybe sometime in the future it could be a deer gun.
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Old July 21st, 2013, 06:49 PM   #2
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.17 hmr. Ammo is everywhere and I seen a semi auto savage for sale in Walmart last week for $217
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savage 111 in 308. a decent gun, at a good price, versatile caliber, ammo priced fair.
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Sks cheap ammo and cheap guns.
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Old July 21st, 2013, 09:28 PM   #5
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I made an educational seminar out of this past shortage. I stopped at several gun stores weekly on the way home from work to investigate the ammo availability. The places I stopped include
Dunhams, total fire arms, not just guns, gander mountain, bobs in hastings, walmart, Meijer (4) locations. The ammo that was left available in these areas were,
.243 this was a surprise to me, This will be my next rifle purchase.
.17 HMR this was left almost every where
7.62 x 39 limited availability at the gun stores, not available at Meijer and walmart.

.22, .223, 308, 9mm, (.40 cal was spotty through it all) these was gone immeadiatly

30-30 .270 30-06 was left at Meijer and walmart down to the end, I helped clean out the Ionia store.

I was very systematic about looking into this weekly.
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Thank Barry. Gun salesman of the year. I'd look at a (now don't laugh) 9mm or similar assault rifle . 9mm reloads can be had by the thousand, and I'm reasonably sure there's rifles that shoot hand gun ammo, correct me if I'm way off on this.
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Can't go wrong with .243 Win. It's an outstanding cartridge. There are also plenty of AR-10 options chambered for it if you need semi auto.
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Can't go wrong with .243 Win. It's an outstanding cartridge. There are also plenty of AR-10 options chambered for it if you need semi auto.
243 is a great cartridge! pretty versatile. good for varmints to deer.
very little felt recoil, light weight to carry in bulk. good choice.
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what do you mean, I picked up a brick of remington .22lr for a buddy from bass pro on friday without even trying to look for it.

I did get the last brick though. I saw it and went, I bet I know someone that needs this.

I marked it up 50 cents and had him give me some fresh veggies from his garden, and some fresh brown eggs lol.
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If I was doing it based on recent ammo availability alone, a .270 would be sitting in my safe. Gander Mountain and Dunham's consistently had .270 sitting on the shelf for the last 6 months, and a .270 works on just about anything warm blooded in North America.

I have been able to regularly order 6.5x55 Swede online for reasonable prices too, but not a lot of choices for picking up an additional rifle at your local gun shop.
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Old July 22nd, 2013, 11:39 AM   #11
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I have a rifle in 30-06 caliber. Ammo is plentiful. The rifle was pretty cheap and you have a lot of knock down power if you needed it. I would go with that.
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what do you mean, I picked up a brick of remington .22lr for a buddy from bass pro on friday without even trying to look for it.

I did get the last brick though. I saw it and went, I bet I know someone that needs this.

I marked it up 50 cents and had him give me some fresh veggies from his garden, and some fresh brown eggs lol.
I can't find 500 round boxes anymore, but I can still find plenty of .22LR, probably even more than I would want to use in a lifetime.
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I have to say 223. Ammo is still out there cheaper than anthing bigger and will knock down a deer. You could buy a bolt gun first then semi later to share the ammo.
We get lots of "I bought it to deer hunt someday" rifles in on consignment . The rarest consignment caliber is 223 and running second is 243. Nothing larger is fun to shoot especially for small framed adults and children.
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243 is a great cartridge! pretty versatile. good for varmints to deer.
very little felt recoil, light weight to carry in bulk. good choice.
Yep, swung by Walmart and meijer today. Both had .243 in the case....and that was about all they had.
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.30-30 is always overlooked.

Fun to shoot and big enough to be reliable for deer.

The recent craziness seems to have somewhat left it alone. It seems like anything not typically used in a high-cap semi-auto has been less crazy.
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Ruger American in .270 is a sweet rifle, and inexpensive. .270 is a really good round. Better trajectory than a .308.
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I can't find 500 round boxes anymore, but I can still find plenty of .22LR, probably even more than I would want to use in a lifetime.
x2. Lots of it on sale online. There are 400 round boxes right now for $50 and they come with one of those self healing targets that bounce around. If you factor in the price of the target, its a good deal. Cabelas had a ton on their website yesterday, I snagged 1500 rounds for $75.
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Yep, swung by Walmart and meijer today. Both had .243 in the case....and that was about all they had.
Here's a nice little article that even includes a few rifle recommendations when it comes to .243 Winchester.

http://www.accurateshooter.com/cartridge-guides/243win/

It's basically a .308 necked down to use a 6mm bullet. Absolutely awesome cartridge that can be used for pretty much anything from tactical competitions, popping a coyote at 800 yards to taking down deer. Very flat shooting, very resistant to crosswinds and as you saw when you went to check out a few places for ammo... it's always on the shelves.
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