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Old July 18th, 2013, 10:24 AM   #21
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Wife has not complained so our bill must not be high
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Old July 18th, 2013, 11:10 AM   #22
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I recently disputed a bill from Consumers Energy, I know not the same company but this is what they told me.

"In the summer months the first 600 kw are billed at normal rates and anything beyond that is billed at a higher rate due to increased demand on the power grid."

BS probably but it made sense in my situation.

My dispute was June's bill (787 kw) was 1 kw lower than April's bill (788 kw) but was $12 more.
It isn't bullshit. The summer months are the highest price months of the year for power prices. They are using the highest cost units to supply the grid, so it costs more. You are paying for reliability.
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Old July 18th, 2013, 11:34 AM   #23
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wow.. I used 679 KWH from May 23 - June 24..

Between June 24th and today I've used 1204 KWH.

This bill is going to suck.


Those with smart meters can log into their bill page, click on load analysis, then click billing period, then export the data to a spreadsheet.
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Old July 18th, 2013, 12:52 PM   #24
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Do you leave every single appliance in the house on with the AC set at 60* and all the windows open?
Ac stays at 68 degrees. I run a welder everyday for a few hours daily. My home is only 1900sq ft but does have two Ac units.
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Old July 18th, 2013, 12:57 PM   #25
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Ac stays at 68 degrees. I run a welder everyday for a few hours daily. My home is only 1900sq ft but does have two Ac units.
Please explain why your bill is 3-4 times my bill.

500-600 per month?

I run my AC, work from home and maintain 72* during the day, 68 at night. 1800 sq feet, tv on all day, laptop on all day, and I rarely if every pay over $150. In fact I haven't paid over $100 Yet since april.

You should probably learn to turn off lights or shut windows while your AC is running.
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Old July 18th, 2013, 01:37 PM   #27
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Old July 18th, 2013, 01:38 PM   #28
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My latest was $104. I'm expecting next month to probably be around $150 after this heat wave.
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we've been right around 4-500 the last few months. Been watering our lawn a lot, a 12k btu portable ac, a 10 k btu window ac and my grandpas breathing air machine 24/7. Not too bad at all I thought for what we have running, grandpa is nice and cool and laughs at me and my gf coming in everyday sweaty as hell.
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It isn't bullshit. The summer months are the highest price months of the year for power prices. They are using the highest cost units to supply the grid, so it costs more. You are paying for reliability.
That's funny, my power was out for 5 hours on Wed and the power company said it was because of grid overload.
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Old July 18th, 2013, 02:57 PM   #31
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we've been right around 4-500 the last few months. Been watering our lawn a lot, a 12k btu portable ac, a 10 k btu window ac and my grandpas breathing air machine 24/7. Not too bad at all I thought for what we have running, grandpa is nice and cool and laughs at me and my gf coming in everyday sweaty as hell.
That is a ridiculous bill, I run my hotub-central ac-fans-garage tunes-garage fan-irrigate daily and whatever misc household electronics and my bill is never more than $150 in the summer months. July's bill was $112.
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Please explain why your bill is 3-4 times my bill.

500-600 per month?

I run my AC, work from home and maintain 72* during the day, 68 at night. 1800 sq feet, tv on all day, laptop on all day, and I rarely if every pay over $150. In fact I haven't paid over $100 Yet since april.

You should probably learn to turn off lights or shut windows while your AC is running.
As said earlier this is my gas and electric in one bill. Also the welder uses a lot of juice. I weld up 2-5 racks a day damn near everyday. These racks are to hold the qt panel of the charger. Sometimes I bulid one almost completely from scratch and sometimes just replace a bent bar. I have a miller 200 and I go thru about one bottle of gas every 2-3 weeks and it's the 4'tall bottle. I've always assumed that my bill was this high from the welder/electric tools and to add in the Ac and dryer that sees two loads of laundry a day. Maybe my bill is way out of line?
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Square footage, insulation, and trees to shade make a big difference. Dumb statement to those that already know.
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As said earlier this is my gas and electric in one bill. Also the welder uses a lot of juice. I weld up 2-5 racks a day damn near everyday. These racks are to hold the qt panel of the charger. Sometimes I bulid one almost completely from scratch and sometimes just replace a bent bar. I have a miller 200 and I go thru about one bottle of gas every 2-3 weeks and it's the 4'tall bottle. I've always assumed that my bill was this high from the welder/electric tools and to add in the Ac and dryer that sees two loads of laundry a day. Maybe my bill is way out of line?
still seems high, my numbers quoted are gas and electric combined. 4 people in the house, I run a 55" TV 12+ hours a day.

I was always told that unless you were continuously welding that the welder wasn't "that" bad on your electric. I can't imagine you're welding $200 worth a month, that seems out of line.

I know my TV should be a pretty big draw as most are, not comparing it to a welder, but I am certain my TV is drawing more often than your welder is. I turn it on at 7am when I sit down to work, off at 5pm for the dinner hour, then on again for a bit after the kids go to bed.
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That's funny, my power was out for 5 hours on Wed and the power company said it was because of grid overload.
I'm not talking about reliability of every little podunk distribution line to each neighborhood. I'm talking about having enough power available for Michigan as a whole to meet the summer peak load. You are going to have local issues. As places add new neighborhoods, people add more crap to their houses, the power company has to upgrade the local lines to keep up. That isn't easy or cheap. If they need new right of way to run a new line, it can take several years just to get the right of way. Everyone wants their cheap and reliable power, but they don't want to see power lines, sub-stations, etc...
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Old July 18th, 2013, 06:06 PM   #36
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the biggest electric bill we have had in three years was $240. Our whole house is electric no gas or pane, and that is running the 5hp air compressor and 220v welder.
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