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Old July 11th, 2013, 09:09 AM   #1
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Default Meeting tonight to discuss Oakland County ORV park in Oxford

Saw this last night. Looks like there's a meeting tonight @ 6:30 in Oxford to get input on the ORV park.

http://www.clarkstonnews.com/Article...p-July-11.html

July 10, 2013 - A charrette (or workshop) regarding the potential creation of an 860-acre multi-use adventure park centered around off-road vehicle (ORV) use in Oxford Township is scheduled for Thursday, July 11.

The workshop will take place from 6:30 to 8:30 p.m. at the Oxford Village municipal complex (22 W. Burdick St.).

Oakland County Parks and Recreation is exploring the idea of developing this park on the 1,200-acre Koenig Sand & Gravel property. The Koenig site is bordered by Ray Rd. to the north; the Addison Twp. border to the east; N. Oxford Rd. to the west; and Lakeville Rd./Polly Ann Trail to the south.

The charrette is designed to give the public an opportunity to learn more about the proposed park concept, ask questions and provide input.

Two additional charrettes are scheduled for Thursday, July 25 and Thursday, Aug. 1 same times, same location.

The results of each charrette will be posted at www.DestinationOakland.com in order to provide the public with another opportunity to submit comments and suggestions.

Although creating a legal place for ORV riding is the main impetus, the proposed park could also offer opportunities for horseback riding, mountain biking, fishing, archery deer hunting, scuba diving and training, water recreation and watercraft use, nature trails, wildlife viewing and zip-line experiences.

As it stands right now, the concept involves the Koenig land potentially being acquired by the Michigan Department of Natural Resources (DNR) using monies from the Michigan Natural Resources Trust Fund.

"The grant application has been submitted, but at the earliest, (it would be) two years before any sort of an acquisition could occur," explained Jon Noyes, supervisor of planning for the county parks system.

That's assuming the grant is awarded and Koenig decides to sell the property to the state, which is by no means a sure thing. There's been no negotiations or agreements with the landowner, only some preliminary discussion.

Although the proposal calls for the DNR to purchase and own the land, it would be leased to the county parks department for a period of at least 50 years.

During that time, the county would be solely responsible for the development, operation and maintenance of the multi-use park.

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You assume they know how to build it.
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Old July 11th, 2013, 10:40 AM   #4
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You assume they know how to build it.
That's why they need some input! You can see from the list of stuff they have a lot of sports they are trying to please and I think that it is critical that they understand what the public wants.

I know that there have been a lot of gripes in the past that there is no where in SE Michigan to wheel - this is YOUR chance to voice your opinion and see what the plan is. The more folks that show to represent the sport will help show the demand for the park in the area.

If you live in the area close to the park or think you would use this then I encourage you to make it to one of the three dates at the Oxford Village Municipal Complex (22. W. Burdick St.).

Thursday, July 11th @ 6:30pm
Thursday, July 25th @ 6:30pm
Thursday, Aug 1st @ 6:30pm
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I have been in contact with the engineering firm. He tells me this is NOT the meeting where we need to show up in force to flex our numbers. Those interested in the process should attend but it isn't the meeting where we need a huge turnout.

Hag gar, if you like the rocks at St. Helen or the mounds, then yes, they will know how to build it.
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I have been in contact with the engineering firm. He tells me this is NOT the meeting where we need to show up in force to flex our numbers. Those interested in the process should attend but it isn't the meeting where we need a huge turnout.

Hag gar, if you like the rocks at St. Helen or the mounds, then yes, they will know how to build it.
Do you know when this meeting will be where we need to show our numbers?
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I was just in a meeting (on another topic) this morning with a planner from the Oakland County Parks Department and he had to leave early to get some materials ready for tonight's charrette. We were discussing the possible ORV park beforehand and it sounded like tonight's charrette is going to focus on providing a more in-depth introduction of the proposal to the general public there in the Oxford area but there will be ample opportunity for any attendee to give their input - such is the nature of a charrette. Tonight will also give an introduction to what a charrette is for those attendees who have never participated in one. If you are picturing something like a township planning commission or ZBA meeting, you are way off.

I would definitely advise that anybody who is truly interested in the proposal attend tonight (and attend all three meetings if available).

Looking ahead at some of the details of the three scheduled charettes, it sounds like the 2nd one (July 25th) is where the attendees will get down to the nitty gritty and work the the engineering firms on the potential design on the park coming up with three concepts and then voting on them.

The final charrette will present the winning concept from session two that has had whatever revision and public comments added to it and review it before it will be presented to the Township, the county, and the MDNR.
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Do you know when this meeting will be where we need to show our numbers?
He wasn't sure. I'm sure I will hear when time comes.

(In the meantime Rob, answer your email.)
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He wasn't sure. I'm sure I will hear when time comes.

(In the meantime Rob, answer your email.)
Haven't seen any email from you, did you send it to the right address?
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Do you know when this meeting will be where we need to show our numbers?
The word I received is for the July 25th meeting.

It would be great if we had a large turnout. The best way to do this is to dress clean and professional and any comments be made in a very polite manner. Unfortunately our sport has the image of the BDMT's and hilljacks running around drinking beer and acting stupid. Instead, we want to show a diverse group of people from all walks of life and incomes that enjoy this as a sport and a hobby. We want to let the locals know that we will spend money in the area and also respect their town.
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ill wear my free trayvon martin shirt to show my diversity
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I'll be there. Trying to put some talking points together
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can't read any of this at this size, is there a website listed on there to get it on-line?
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They looked ok when i uploaded them let my try some higher resolution scans later tonight

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No problem. Anyone going to the 25th meeting want to grab some food before?
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I hope to go but don't know my timing.
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Is it irony or satire, that it will be legal to wheel, where so many have trespassed for so long?
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