Property Survey - Page 2 - Great Lakes 4x4. The largest offroad forum in the Midwest

Go Back   Great Lakes 4x4. The largest offroad forum in the Midwest > General 4x4 Stuff > The Pub
GL4x4 Live! GL4x4 Casino

The Pub A friendly forum where everybody is nice, and will answer any questions you have about life.

greatlakes4x4.com is the premier Great Lakes 4x4 Forum on the internet. Registered Users do not see the above ads.
Search
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old July 4th, 2013, 04:53 AM   #21
g00fy1
Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum
 
g00fy1's Avatar
 
Join Date: 12-19-10
Location: Monroe, MI
Posts: 436
iTrader: (16)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Default

You'll need some sort of description of the property lines, with that you can survey the corners. Anyone with surveying knowledge and equipment can do it but to be legal it must be done by a licensed land surveyor and there's where the big costs come in.

Mine wasn't surveyed when I bought it either, but it had been at some point and that was included in the legal description of the plot. The "survey" when I bought it consisted of someone coming out and saying "yep, that's where it is".

Back to the original question. Do your papers include anything in the description with line directions and lengths?
__________________
Life is tough, even tougher if your stupid. - John Wayne
g00fy1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old July 4th, 2013, 06:25 AM   #22
whiterhino
I'm not old, honest...
 
whiterhino's Avatar
 
Join Date: 03-07-06
Location: Davisburg MI
Posts: 21,730
iTrader: (21)
Mentioned: 14 Post(s)
Default

There is no point in having it done "on the side" if it won't be a legal document. I have had both of my properties surveyed. The first is a lake front parcel, 50 x 300 & the second is a 10 acre parcel up north. Both were under $1000. Our home on the lake confirmed property lines. The survey of our property up north confirmed that the previous owner was mistaken about the property line by about 65 ft. We had a driveway on the neighbor's property that I moved. It's worth getting it done.

Regarding the dock, there are a couple different things. As noted, adverse possession. Second, there is the doctrine of Acquiescence, which basically says that if 2 parties treat something as the property line for 15 or more years, that is the new property line. The kicker is that both parties must not know where the true property line is. It comes from the days of where 2 farmers may treat a tree line as their property line and years later find out that the tree line is not on the property line. After 15 years, the tree line is it.

I had a potential issue with a neighbor about my property line. After consulting an attorney who specializes in land issues, he gave me the above description.

Bottom line, I feel it's a good idea to get your property surveyed, but do it right or it's a waste of time and money.
__________________
GLFWDA member since 1979.
Member Southern Michigan Rock Crawlers.
whiterhino is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 4th, 2013, 08:45 AM   #23
46flattie
flattie
 
Join Date: 06-14-06
Location: Benzie County
Posts: 129
iTrader: (2)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by whiterhino View Post
There is no point in having it done "on the side" if it won't be a legal document. do it right or it's a waste of time and money.
YES, by law it is illegal for anyone to perform a survey w/o being a licensed Professional Surveyor or under the supervision of a licensed Professional Surveyor. (Of which the licensed Professional Surveyor reviews/checks fieldwork, signs and seals the Certificate of Survey document.)

Check around with a few local surveyors in the area of your parcel and try to find one that has done a lot of work in your area. Usually, the more familiar the surveyor is with the area the more cost effective they will be. Of course if it is a pain in the ass area to survey, they may cost more than an uninformed surveyor, but the job should be done better. Generally, lakes are pain in the ass areas! If you are good w/your neighbor who had their parcel surveyed, find out who did it...that may be a good place to start.

If you have no idea where to start go here: http://www.misps.org/index.php/whats...ind-a-surveyor
46flattie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 4th, 2013, 08:53 AM   #24
LS6454
Senior Member
 
LS6454's Avatar
 
Join Date: 03-12-09
Location: MI
Posts: 1,382
iTrader: (4)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Default

Eaton County we had our flag shaped 15 acres done and it was just under $1000 to have all the corners marked and recorded . Also received a legal document drawing of our property and its lines.

It was alitte extra to have the survey company record it with the county. Its cheaper to not have it recorded , but I don't know why anyone would not record it

Last edited by LS6454; July 4th, 2013 at 09:01 AM.
LS6454 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 4th, 2013, 09:14 AM   #25
Ebs
Senior Member
 
Join Date: 11-06-05
Location: MI
Posts: 3,377
iTrader: (8)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Default

Speaking of, whatever happened about the guy on here who had a new garage built across the property line?
Ebs is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 4th, 2013, 10:14 AM   #26
XJcoupe
1ton XJ
 
XJcoupe's Avatar
 
Join Date: 04-04-11
Location: Sault Ont.
Posts: 579
iTrader: (2)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by mtnbikinbryno View Post

As I said above if you are lucky and willing to dig you can find markers yourself and save some money.
THIS ^^^

To save yourself some cash, find someone with a metal detector, a buddy had 1 and found my corner stakes in 5 min under 4inches of hard packed gravel driveway also found where the watermain shutoff was barried in the front lawn.
XJcoupe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 4th, 2013, 11:02 AM   #27
pizzaman
Senior Member
 
pizzaman's Avatar
 
Join Date: 11-05-05
Location: Independence Twsp, North Oakland County
Posts: 938
iTrader: (3)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by XJcoupe View Post
THIS ^^^

To save yourself some cash, find someone with a metal detector, a buddy had 1 and found my corner stakes in 5 min under 4inches of hard packed gravel driveway also found where the watermain shutoff was barried in the front lawn.
That's what I was thinking of doing although speaking with one of the original home builders in my area, we looked around and discussed the possibility of someone moving the stakes.
We used a hand held metal detector and couldn't find anything.
I have a arial plot photo and description of the property with dimensions but again, while the lengths are correct, the placement of them could be inaccurate.
Maybe the best bet is to pay the outrageous price. Feel like I'm getting raped because I am on water and the fact that I have one side of property recently marked I only need 3 sides done.
pizzaman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 4th, 2013, 03:03 PM   #28
g00fy1
Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum
 
g00fy1's Avatar
 
Join Date: 12-19-10
Location: Monroe, MI
Posts: 436
iTrader: (16)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 46flattie View Post
YES, by law it is illegal for anyone to perform a survey w/o being a licensed Professional Surveyor or under the supervision of a licensed Professional Surveyor.
Geez, I hope that's not true, I've been doing it for about 25 years now. Anyone can survey but only a licensed land surveyor or someone working under one can set property corners or draw up a legal description of a land plot.

I didn't know if the OP just wanted to know where the lines were or if he needed a legal survey drawn up of the property. If he just wants to know, then anyone with the skill and equipment can do it, they may also get lucky and locate the corners if they're still buried.
__________________
Life is tough, even tougher if your stupid. - John Wayne
g00fy1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply
Great Lakes 4x4. The largest offroad forum in the Midwest > General 4x4 Stuff > The Pub

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:51 AM.


Powered by: vBulletin, Copyright 2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2014 DragonByte Technologies Ltd. Runs best on HiVelocity Hosting.
Page generated in 0.22144 seconds with 44 queries