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Old July 1st, 2013, 04:32 PM   #1
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This is an area I know little about. I am thinking of getting one for woodchucks in the yard and other pest. I have a few .22's but am thinking this is something new to put in the arsenal, and ammo is more readily available. So what do I new to know? What brand and caliber do I want for 10-50 yard kills on woodchucks?
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http://www.amazon.com/Gamo-Big-Cat-1...o+big+cat+1400
This one kills squirrels very easily and is a simple pump one. I think I made a large dent in the tree rat population in lansing with this bad boy. It may be a bit small for woodchucks unless you get a head shot.

I've heard this one is awesome but don't have any first hand experience with it. The caliber ans fps should be good. I think any higher caliber and fps you would need an air tank.
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One thing I've found by looking at these at Cabela's is that most of the Gamo's and $100-200 range ones have rolled barrels. If you are looking at 800+ fps rifles that seems sketchy. I got a RMS Meistershutze from airguns of arizona. Supposed to go 1100 fps, it is a break barrel and has a sound suppressor and a 3-9x scope. When I lived at 4200 ft above sea level i tried 5 different pellets and could only get 850 fps. I haven't chrono'd it yet since moving to MI but expect a little better closer to sea level. I got a .177 but would have liked to get a .22 if I was to do it over again.
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Every time I go to Cabellas I check the clearance section and there will be a cple nice air rifles around $100. When ever I go to the rack the wife always looks like she's gonna punch me. I don't have much to shoot at except for a cple pesky rabbits.
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gamo makes one that's tough...go to youtube and search "man kills wild pig with pellet gun"..pretty neat if you got a couple hundred dollars burnin a hole in your pocket....
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I have a silver streak pellet rifle that has killed many rodents. Not as fast as some of the new ones but still powerful.
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Just remember silenced airguns (have a suppressor) are illegal in MI. They are also considered firearms in MI, only smooth-bore BB guns are not considered firearms. You also supposed to get a varmint hunting license.
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Just remember silenced airguns (have a suppressor) are illegal in MI. They are also considered firearms in MI, only smooth-bore BB guns are not considered firearms. You also supposed to get a varmint hunting license.
They are not illegal. You just need to get the tax stamp from the ATF.

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I'd like to see one of you guys kill a woodchuck with a pellet gun.
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If it's and air rifle, they are considered firearms, and can get you in trouble if you live in the city. Friend of mine shot at a raccoon, to scare it out of the yard. Neighbors complained to the cops and he almost got ticketed for discharging a firearm in city limits.
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I'd like to see one of you guys kill a woodchuck with a pellet gun.
Not a big deal really if you're a good shot OR have a large caliber gun. Anyone who thinks today's pellet guns aren't serious is a fool...

What it boils down to is how much do you want to spend? The new precharged pneumatic guns that are on the market are great in that they provide multi-shot magazines/are far easier on scopes, but they're big money to get started with.

Any gun that has a break-barrel can be less accurate than one with a solid connection, and you can get air leakage at the joint. Spring guns are very hard on optics (vibrations) - make sure if you purchase one you get a scope specifically for air rifles or you'll trash a scope after a few hundred rounds.

If you're serious about it, I'd look at something like an RWS 34 or 48 in .22. I wouldn't consider a .177 for what you want to do...not enough energy IMO
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I'd like to see one of you guys kill a woodchuck with a pellet gun.
You are an idiot and have no clue what your are talking about.
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If it's and air rifle, they are considered firearms, and can get you in trouble if you live in the city. Friend of mine shot at a raccoon, to scare it out of the yard. Neighbors complained to the cops and he almost got ticketed for discharging a firearm in city limits.
I don't live in town. I am currently shooting them with a .22 or my .40 xd.

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Not a big deal really if you're a good shot OR have a large caliber gun. Anyone who thinks today's pellet guns aren't serious is a fool...

What it boils down to is how much do you want to spend? The new precharged pneumatic guns that are on the market are great in that they provide multi-shot magazines/are far easier on scopes, but they're big money to get started with.

Any gun that has a break-barrel can be less accurate than one with a solid connection, and you can get air leakage at the joint. Spring guns are very hard on optics (vibrations) - make sure if you purchase one you get a scope specifically for air rifles or you'll trash a scope after a few hundred rounds.

If you're serious about it, I'd look at something like an RWS 34 or 48 in .22. I wouldn't consider a .177 for what you want to do...not enough energy IMO
I am defiantly leaning towards a .22 cal. I looked at some RWS rifles tonight. I also looked at a Rugar. Can you tell me who makes them for Rugar? I assume its relabeled. Break action I understand is better to use iron sites. I have no issue with that. I am also aware of air gun optics being specific for the application. If you have some more in depth info on pre charged I am all ears. The price I am willing to pay I relative to the quality and practicality of the rifle. In other words I am willing do go the distance but would prefer something that does the job (chucking) without going to extremes.
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You are an idiot and have no clue what your are talking about.
Easy, guy. I was just kidding. I hope you find a reasonably priced gun that you can have fun with.
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Not a big deal really if you're a good shot OR have a large caliber gun. Anyone who thinks today's pellet guns aren't serious is a fool...

What it boils down to is how much do you want to spend? The new precharged pneumatic guns that are on the market are great in that they provide multi-shot magazines/are far easier on scopes, but they're big money to get started with.
I guess I can't say that I have recently looked into buying one of these. From what I have read in this thread, it sounds like these new guns can be pricey, but cool.
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Easy, guy. I was just kidding. I hope you find a reasonably priced gun that you can have fun with.
I wasn't being a dick I just ce across that way.

FYI many guy custom build .50 air rifles and shoot big game such as buffalo.
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I'd like to see one of you guys kill a woodchuck with a pellet gun.
I killed a ground hog Fat gray thing with the 2 big buck teeth, and a Huge Albino Rat (Possum) with my Ruger Pellet gun.
Each took 2 shots one to stop, 1 to kill.
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I may have to get one of these now. From what I understand (besides my own stupidity) you guys seem to be slaying the big beasts.
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My buddy's dad has an Air Arms pellet gun. It is a .22 and you fill it with a scuba tank. It is a bad ass gun and he kills ground hogs all the time with it.
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I am defiantly leaning towards a .22 cal. I looked at some RWS rifles tonight. I also looked at a Rugar. Can you tell me who makes them for Rugar? I assume its relabeled. Break action I understand is better to use iron sites. I have no issue with that. I am also aware of air gun optics being specific for the application. If you have some more in depth info on pre charged I am all ears. The price I am willing to pay I relative to the quality and practicality of the rifle. In other words I am willing do go the distance but would prefer something that does the job (chucking) without going to extremes.
I believe the Ruger guns are "made" by Umarex. From what I understand, this is a big corp that now imports the bulk of air rifles into the states. I think the Ruger and similar low-end/low cost rifles are made in china. From what I understand, the RWS rifles they import are still made in Germany. The RWS rifles I have experience with are all older/made in Germany.

There are also Thoeben/gas ram guns, which use a gas piston that is "cocked" every time similar to a spring gun...I don't have much experience with these, but they're supposed to shoot smoother than springers

PCP Is exactly what hondadirtracer said...charge them with a scuba tank, they pressurize an on-board cylinder to a set pressure, and then every time you pull the trigger some of the on-board air is used to push a pellet. You can charge them with a hand pump, but most people use a scuba tank and have that refilled by the local dive shop. They are the Cadillac (when that meant something) of air guns, and are bad ass. There are some that shoot .45 and .50 muzzle loader ammo...pretty wicked stuff

To give you an idea on price...I found this plus you need to spend another 180 on a hand pump or more cash for a scuba set up....
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