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Old June 21st, 2013, 07:54 AM   #1
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I have 2006 lj lwb wrangler and I was thinking about running the rough country 4" long arm lift kit and wanted to know if someone was running it and what there thoughts were on this kit. I can't find anyone in my area with this kit let alone long arm kit that i know off. And I admit I like going off road but most of my driving is going to be on road.
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Old June 21st, 2013, 09:27 AM   #2
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For the price it is descent but there were a few things I hated.

- the joints sucked (I hear the new style are better though)
- the rear links share the same pivot point
- the frame end link brackets hang down too far
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For the price I would buy it again but it definitely is not a top end kit.
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Old June 21st, 2013, 09:32 AM   #3
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If I were going to do the RC long arm kit again I would get these brackets for the rear.

http://www.undercoverfab.com/long-ar...nlimited-.html
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Thanks for the input . I've been contemplating running an ome 2"lift and 1"bl with tummy tuck and gearing it but not sure yet which way to go, thanks again
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Thanks for the input . I've been contemplating running an ome 2"lift and 1"bl with tummy tuck and gearing it but not sure yet which way to go, thanks again
The longarm kit will make your jeep ride really nice on the road. What size tires are you going with? The pic I posted was 2.5" springs and 32" tires.
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Plan on running 33's any bigger and it could cost moneyevery time iIgo wheel. Still running the 373 if I buy rc kit ,wantedthe 4" kit if i get the rc
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I also forgot, I milled down a 2" coil spacer down to 1 1/4" and added it up front to make it sit level. I hated the way it sloped forward with just the RC 2.5" springs.
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Avoid rough country long arm kits. Quality sucks and you can get a great suspension that will perform just as good with short control arms. Do more research before you jump into a crappy long arm kit. It will save you a lot of frustration and money in the long run.
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For me 90% on road trying to find happy medium for ride and function short arms fine with me but nobody seems to be able to answer the million dollar? Which kit has both. So far talked to couple people and they like the rough country kit. But idk
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Old August 6th, 2013, 07:28 AM   #10
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What is your budget?
What type of off roading do you do?
What size tires?
What drivetrain and gears?
What is the max tire size you plan on running in the future?
You'll be replacing your rough country stuff sooner than later. There's a reason it's cheap!

It's better to build your own kit and mix and match parts from different companies. There are write ups and tons of info if you let your fingers do the walking on google.
Don't believe all the hype with kits.

I see you have an LJ, so you are already starting with a great platform and wheelbase.
here is a list of items you might consider purchasing or piecing together; good quality springs, upper and lower control arms, shocks, steering upgrade, tummy tuck, novak cable shifter, brakes, adjustable track bars, currie anti-rock, rocker protection, gas tank skid, rear corner armor, bumpers and depending on your tire selection you can add gears and lockers to get a strong and very capable on and off road rig.

I'm also running an LJ that I use as my DD.
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I was originally trying to piece a kit together right now I have a set of ome 4" springs but budget is slim so started looking at a complete kit. It's completely stock now and looking for any input on what works, u can get lots of info on stuff I just wanted to get real hands on info. Plan on running 35 s someday but keeping cog low. And offroading would be mostly trails. Just want something that rides decent"yeah i know it's a jeep,but got spoiled with jk i had" and can beat the snot out of it on weekend
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Don't go cheap on your control arms and mine are a combination of Currie and Savvy.
Flat fenders or metal cloak fenders can give you a ton of room for 35's later on if that's what's you are after. Anytime you go past the 3.5" lift you are getting into a new area of parts and money. 4" springs isn't a LCG rig. I have the same jeep as yours and I'm doing the same set up in preparation for 35's and I'm doing it on a budget.
List of used parts I've purchased: Currie anti-rock front and rear, BDS springs, currie control arms, Tom Woods driveshaft, 241OR transfer case, Novak Cable shifter, Rokmen gas tank skid, full poison spyder corners, Bilstein shocks, LPD30, currie steering set-up and with all of these parts I saved a ton of money, but it takes time. I also have made my own rocker protection and flat belly skid that works with the LoPro mount.
Fitting 35's will cost some money to do it right and the short arms will be much cheaper than buying a complete long arm set up. You already have the wheelbase with the LJ and IMO you don't really need a LA and that will give you more $$$ for extra parts. Don't forget to upgrade your brakes and steering if you are thinking of 35's. You will also want to regear at some point and depending on what tires and transmission you have will determine what gears to run. Keep a look out for a mid 90's XJ front axle and build that while you have it sitting in your garage. Much cheaper than buying a rubicon D44 which has many of the same LP D30 parts you already have and it's a HP.
Think about 3.5" BDS or OME springs and a 1 1/4" body lift and 1" MML.
I could go on for a while about this, but these are just some suggestions and are not set in stone for you to do, but some helpful advice for doing it on a budget.
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Thanks for info it's a great help for me . That's all I was looking for was someone with the same rigthats tested some equipment. How does it ride? And the lj arms are longer than tj correct? And what kind of brake upgrades are u talking about I already have rear disk is there more to add to help. Sounds like I'm trying to accomplish the same as u are a good solid trail rig but yet DD. Thanks again u were a lot of help. Oh and 3.5 in springs are that much different than 4s then?
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It rides great, but will ride better when I install the bilstein shocks and outboard them. Do you have a SYE yet? You might or might not need it with your LJ. Depends on how severe your angles are after you do the lift. I have a Tom Woods because I installed a rubicon transfer case and found a great deal on the correct driveshaft.
Same length control arms as the TJ and make sure they are adjustable. There are several companies to stay away from for arms unless you want to replace them in a year or 2.
I'll be adding Black Magic pads up front that will help a ton in stopping over the stock set up since the majority of your stopping is from your front brakes.
You can do the ZJ tie rod upgrade and it's much stronger than a stock tie rod and drag link that you have. I picked up mine at a junkyard for next to nothing. I bent my stock one several times before I upgraded to the ZJ and now I'm upgrading to the Currie system.
I'd buy the 3" or 3.5" springs and add a 1.25" body lift and 1" MML but it also depends on what size tires you eventually want to run and what trails you plan on running. If you buy matching coil springs the front end might sit a bit higher and that's why I have 2.5" rough country front coil springs for now and they are staying until I upgrade them to 3" or 3.5" BDS and that will be sooner than later when the 8274 warn winch goes on. It will sit almost an inch lower if I installed the winch right now.
A huge way to get better clearance is running a tummy tuck/flat skid plate. You can get 2-4.5 inches of extra clearance and that's makes a huge difference!!!
I have a ton of parts sitting and waiting to be installed, plus I'm trying to get my Mustang in primer, so the next 2 months will be packed with many long days of work.
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Old August 8th, 2013, 06:19 AM   #15
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Where did u find most of ur parts that ur getting such good deals? And a zj steering huh what yr and v8 or v6 , and boy priced out a ruby tcase from junk yard holly smokes 1200 bucks
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