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Old June 20th, 2013, 07:36 AM   #21
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Its not just the amount of food we are eating, it is the quality too. The nations food supply is killing us all slowly. Buy local, buy organic when possible. Anyway, I will let Kickstand and WakeBabe take it from here.
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Old June 20th, 2013, 07:44 AM   #22
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I spoke to my wife about this last night. Apparently treatment options will still remain the same as they have been. Diet/exercise plans, medication, and sometimes surgery. She says the classification as a disease is just so insurance can cover more of it.

We both said that can either be good or bad, because with the way our insurance system works it will either cost less or cost more. If someone stays obese for their lives, their medical costs that insurance does cover will easily outweigh what the preventative costs would have been. It's a sad reality people can't just figure it out themselves, but this new classification may cause people to get action due to insurance coverage that may not have before.

Either way, to me it's nothing more than passing the buck. It's another reason and excuse for fat fucks to use that basically says it isn't their fault.
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Hopefully insurance companies make fat people pay 75% more for their policies like they do with smokers..........
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I spoke to my wife about this last night. Apparently treatment options will still remain the same as they have been. Diet/exercise plans, medication, and sometimes surgery. She says the classification as a disease is just so insurance can cover more of it.

We both said that can either be good or bad, because with the way our insurance system works it will either cost less or cost more. If someone stays obese for their lives, their medical costs that insurance does cover will easily outweigh what the preventative costs would have been. It's a sad reality people can't just figure it out themselves, but this new classification may cause people to get action due to insurance coverage that may not have before.

Either way, to me it's nothing more than passing the buck. It's another reason and excuse for fat fucks to use that basically says it isn't their fault.
I disagree with just about everything that you said. Obese people don't need insurance coverage. They need to think about what they're sticking in their goddamn hole. Insurance doesn't cover cure for stupid. Until now that is.
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I disagree with just about everything that you said. Obese people don't need insurance coverage. They need to think about what they're sticking in their goddamn hole. Insurance doesn't cover cure for stupid. Until now that is.
If they already have insurance coverage, the real diseases as a result of obesity end up costing everyone way more.

I don't like the way our current insurance set-up works. It covers everything and anything, and displaces responsibility off of the individual.
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If they already have insurance coverage, the real diseases as a result of obesity end up costing everyone way more.

I don't like the way our current insurance set-up works. It covers everything and anything, and displaces responsibility off of the individual.
Oh great! The born again non-obese diseased people are already coming out!
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Wait! If a woman is preggo is she considered diseased under this new definition of obese diseased people?

I don't really care. Just wondering.
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Oh great! The born again non-obese diseased people are already coming out!
I don't support the AMA's decision, but the reality of the situation is insurance-wise we get screwed by what other people do with their lives. Until insurance changes, I have to accept I'd rather get screwed less.
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Hi. Ever since you were of age to need insurance we all have been getting screwed. Insurance companies are just shoving it in deeper, with their hands on your shoulders, and smiling bigger.
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Hi. Ever since you were of age to need insurance we all have been getting screwed. Insurance companies are just shoving it in deeper, with their hands on your shoulders, and smiling bigger.
Well aware. That's why the whole system needs to change, but probably never will.
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Well aware. That's why the whole system needs to change, but probably never will.
Take away from insurance with the same coverage?!!!!! Are you insane?!! That would mean the insurance companies would not make bigger profits!! They only care about the people that pay them and don't cost them anything.
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I spoke to my wife about this last night. Apparently treatment options will still remain the same as they have been. Diet/exercise plans, medication, and sometimes surgery. She says the classification as a disease is just so insurance can cover more of it.

We both said that can either be good or bad, because with the way our insurance system works it will either cost less or cost more. If someone stays obese for their lives, their medical costs that insurance does cover will easily outweigh what the preventative costs would have been. It's a sad reality people can't just figure it out themselves, but this new classification may cause people to get action due to insurance coverage that may not have before.

Either way, to me it's nothing more than passing the buck. It's another reason and excuse for fat fucks to use that basically says it isn't their fault.
I find it kind of entertaining that you come off so strong against fat people and constantly refer to them in a derogatory manner like they are the absolute scum of the Earth when just a couple years ago you were well over 300 pounds yourself.

It's also awesome that you said "Enough of this shit" and started a diet and exercise plan and lost all of that weight over the last few years and now live a healthy lifestyle and will even be participating in Tough Mudder.

Moral of the story: All it takes to lose the weight is a diet and exercise plan. It's not a disease. There are certain medications and conditions that do cause massive weight gain but 99% of people out there do not have those problems. They're just fat.

Be like GreaseMonkey. If you're fat... admit that you're fat and that you have a problem and implement a diet and exercise plan. Unless you're one of those rare people... you have absolutely no excuse.


P.S. - I'm fat. I like good beer and good food. I don't blame anyone else and don't expect anyone else to pay for my healthcare because of it.
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Old June 20th, 2013, 08:59 AM   #33
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I find it kind of entertaining that you come off so strong against fat people and constantly refer to them in a derogatory manner like they are the absolute scum of the Earth when just a couple years ago you were well over 300 pounds yourself.

It's also awesome that you said "Enough of this shit" and started a diet and exercise plan and lost all of that weight over the last few years and now live a healthy lifestyle and will even be participating in Tough Mudder.

Moral of the story: All it takes to lose the weight is a diet and exercise plan. It's not a disease. There are certain medications and conditions that do cause massive weight gain but 99% of people out there do not have those problems. They're just fat.

Be like GreaseMonkey. If you're fat... admit that you're fat and that you have a problem and implement a diet and exercise plan. Unless you're one of those rare people... you have absolutely no excuse.


P.S. - I'm fat. I like good beer and good food. I don't blame anyone else and don't expect anyone else to pay for my healthcare because of it.
Because the majority of the ones I know make excuses and whine about it. They want to blame something or someone else for their personally-induced condition. I know plenty of others that just say I like to eat and don't like to exercise which is just fine.

Case and point is that woman in the video from the OP's link. I was born fat, I've always been heavy, I've tried to lose weight, blah blah blah. It must be genetic. I said all the same crap. I would try for 1-2 weeks, and give up. But I tried, and it wasn't easy, so it must be something else. Because I went through it, I can't stand hearing other people whine about it because I know it's utter bullshit. I can say the same thing about smoking since I did that for a few years and quit. You either make up your mind to do it, not just try, or you fail.

I can't tell you how many times I've had overweight people ask me how I did it. They are expecting some miracle way in how I did it, so they can do it too without having to do anything too hard. When I tell them it's all about what you eat and exercise, they are disappointed. They can't come to grips with the realization that it isn't easy, it requires hard choices, and giving up convenience. Instead, they would rather be in denial that they are stuck where they are at and can't do anything about it.
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It's one thing to have a few extra pounds and it's another to be obese. My wife is on the larger side and has only recently relized the problem may be her fault. Despite the realization, she is still really good at making excuses for her issues. I lost almost 50 pounds strictly by diet and got my BMI to 25. I've put on about 10 pounds since then but it's time to get back onto the program. I find it hard to respect people who are obese (especially morbidly) because I look at it as a self inflicted condition. It chaps my ass even more when they refuse to take the blame for their actions. These same people are a burdon on the health care system when they get older and start reaping the results of a lifetime of poor health decisions. Because of their bad choices, I now have to pay a higher insurance premium even though I make an effort to live a healthy lifestyle.
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I dropped 10 lbs in the last 2 weeks. I'm going speedo shopping tomorrow.
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