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Old June 24th, 2013, 10:30 PM   #201
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Old June 24th, 2013, 10:34 PM   #202
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The nsg 370 adapter works with the 6 speed,nv3550 and ax15. They didn't make a stick in a 5.3 so you have to use a 4.8 or a 6.0 flywheel.yes they will bolt up.I have done this conversion. the later Chevy 4500 shifts good but is huge compared to the 3550. U have to do major mods to put it in a jeep.

This is my take on 5.3 cost if u shop.
Motor 300 to 600 complete.
Tune and wire..150 to 800. Depends on who u know.
Adapter, flywheel and clutch.250 to 800 again depends on shopping..( I have adapter clutch and flywheel on my floor.
Motor mounts.build them...50 bucks.
Buy 2010 or 11 camaro manifolds, hug block and just plain work.can easily be had for 100 bucks on eBay.
If you have no shopping skills or building skills.don't do it.I have seen guys spend dumb money doing this swap listening to the company's tell them they need all custom stuff like billet flywheels and shit...if u can't do it cheap.rebuild the 4.0.
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Old June 24th, 2013, 11:46 PM   #203
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I was referring to bdd1469 as far as searching goes I search all over the place before I ever ask a question there may be tons of threads on a certain subject but if I have a specific question I ask it. I know a 4.8, 5.3 and 6.0 are all the same motors practically. Just ask that figuratively I guess.
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Old June 24th, 2013, 11:52 PM   #204
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T-case was out of a 1994 chevy truck

the 4l65e can be found in Escalade, Silverado SS, Hummer H2, Trailblazer SS, Corvette LS6 or LS2, Pontiac GTO, and any 1/2 ton truck with 6.0L

To put a 5.3 into your jeep plan on spending north of 5k
Got cha. That won't work don't want an auto but sounds like a solid setup thanks.

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The nsg 370 adapter works with the 6 speed,nv3550 and ax15. They didn't make a stick in a 5.3 so you have to use a 4.8 or a 6.0 flywheel.yes they will bolt up.I have done this conversion. the later Chevy 4500 shifts good but is huge compared to the 3550. U have to do major mods to put it in a jeep.

This is my take on 5.3 cost if u shop.
Motor 300 to 600 complete.
Tune and wire..150 to 800. Depends on who u know.
Adapter, flywheel and clutch.250 to 800 again depends on shopping..( I have adapter clutch and flywheel on my floor.
Motor mounts.build them...50 bucks.
Buy 2010 or 11 camaro manifolds, hug block and just plain work.can easily be had for 100 bucks on eBay.
If you have no shopping skills or building skills.don't do it.I have seen guys spend dumb money doing this swap listening to the company's tell them they need all custom stuff like billet flywheels and shit...if u can't do it cheap.rebuild the 4.0.
I understand now! How do I go about getting a longer clutch rod?

Can it be shifted as fast as the nv3550?

Thanks for laying it out. I now have a plan should cost me around 2k if I find some deals on parts
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Or supercharge the 4.0. I use an Eaton M90, 36lb injectors, some methanol under boost, and some old school tuning. It's not a drag racer, but easily walks 4.0 Jeeps. It can be done very cheap too.
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Got cha. That won't work don't want an auto but sounds like a solid setup thanks.



I understand now! How do I go about getting a longer clutch rod?

Can it be shifted as fast as the nv3550?

Thanks for laying it out. I now have a plan should cost me around 2k if I find some deals on parts
When I had my stroker engine and my Nv4500 in a TJ on 35s... The last thing I worried about was fast shifting... Its not a race car... Its a jeep...

Buy stuff for offroad performance... Not because you want to be able to beat your buddies on the street...
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When I had my stroker engine and my Nv4500 in a TJ on 35s... The last thing I worried about was fast shifting... Its not a race car... Its a jeep...

Buy stuff for offroad performance... Not because you want to be able to beat your buddies on the street...
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Old June 25th, 2013, 07:20 AM   #209
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u can make the clutch rod out of a bolt with a nut on the end.or a bunch of other things.has to be longer then your stock one.dont know what year your jeep is? if you have a later one you can use the stock fuel pump. if not u need to change that.

the 3550 shifts better then the 4500.drag racing is not what i have a stick shift for..
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but a stick shift will win a drag race if you don't have to shift!!!!!!!OMGGTFO!!!!!!
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Old June 25th, 2013, 09:06 AM   #211
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When I had my stroker engine and my Nv4500 in a TJ on 35s... The last thing I worried about was fast shifting... Its not a race car... Its a jeep...

Buy stuff for offroad performance... Not because you want to be able to beat your buddies on the street...
The ability to shift quicker helps to maintain momentum and not get stuck.
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The ability to shift quicker helps to maintain momentum and not get stuck.
A properly selected combination of an engine with adequate torque, and well matched transmission and axle ratios, considering tire size and vehicle weight means you should rarely be shifting.

Thats one of the advantages of a V8 / auto combo, they can use less gearing, and still generated plenty of torque, and then also be able to generate enough wheelspeed without shifting.

A reworked auto will also shift much faster without the neutral state, to keep momentum.


Thats been a pet-project of mine, I have compiled info from many members on here with their gear/transmission/tire setups, shift points, etc, and all of my various vehicles. Thats actually one of the problems with TJ wranglers, they are getting heavy for the 4.0, and with the stock AX15 type manual, you need to get to about 5.38-5.6x gears with 33s, to get 3rd gear to be 'the gear' that pulls most hills or mudholes without a shift, or gear down to 3.1-3.5 axle gears and use 2nd.

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I really like my tranny tom full manual c6 with e4od parts.....Thanks bones
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I really like my tranny tom full manual c6 with e4od parts.....Thanks bones
I have driven an aw4 with home made paddle shifters(momentary switches on wheel)...... kind of polish and cobbled together but awesome! Shifts quick & hard on demand with out an ounce of hesitation. I had no problem going from 1st to second and back to first on test without hesitation.

I met this guy at the bottom of test hill, spoke to him for about 20 min, then he beggs me to give his jeep a try. Blue cj7 w/ bald 37" at tires and 4.? Stroker/aw4.

I fully understand your love for a manually controlled auto. Some day I will go there but no day soon. I just don't wheel enough to justify the effort
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Or supercharge the 4.0. I use an Eaton M90, 36lb injectors, some methanol under boost, and some old school tuning. It's not a drag racer, but easily walks 4.0 Jeeps. It can be done very cheap too.
My 4.0 isnt in good enough shape for that plus I want some more torque down low for crawling in the rocks

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When I had my stroker engine and my Nv4500 in a TJ on 35s... The last thing I worried about was fast shifting... Its not a race car... Its a jeep...

Buy stuff for offroad performance... Not because you want to be able to beat your buddies on the street...
I understand that. I dont want my jeep to be fast for the street but to be able to shift fast for hill climbs or when I need to get wheel speed to bump it over a ledge.

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u can make the clutch rod out of a bolt with a nut on the end.or a bunch of other things.has to be longer then your stock one.dont know what year your jeep is? if you have a later one you can use the stock fuel pump. if not u need to change that.

the 3550 shifts better then the 4500.drag racing is not what i have a stick shift for..
I have an 02 TJ. Can I buy something or does the clutch rod have to be made? Doesnt sound too hard

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The ability to shift quicker helps to maintain momentum and not get stuck.
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A properly selected combination of an engine with adequate torque, and well matched transmission and axle ratios, considering tire size and vehicle weight means you should rarely be shifting.

Thats one of the advantages of a V8 / auto combo, they can use less gearing, and still generated plenty of torque, and then also be able to generate enough wheelspeed without shifting.

A reworked auto will also shift much faster without the neutral state, to keep momentum.


Thats been a pet-project of mine, I have compiled info from many members on here with their gear/transmission/tire setups, shift points, etc, and all of my various vehicles. Thats actually one of the problems with TJ wranglers, they are getting heavy for the 4.0, and with the stock AX15 type manual, you need to get to about 5.38-5.6x gears with 33s, to get 3rd gear to be 'the gear' that pulls most hills or mudholes without a shift, or gear down to 3.1-3.5 axle gears and use 2nd.
True thats why an auto is better for wheeling but I just wont go there. Im a manual fan through and through give me a good shifting trans and ill wheel with the best of the autos
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My 4.0 isnt in good enough shape for that plus I want some more torque down low for crawling in the rocks
Good call, everyone knows turbos are better for low end Why anyone would want a roots style supercharger for wheeling is beyond me, idiots.
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My 4.0 isnt in good enough shape for that plus I want some more torque down low for crawling in the rocks



I understand that. I dont want my jeep to be fast for the street but to be able to shift fast for hill climbs or when I need to get wheel speed to bump it over a ledge.



I have an 02 TJ. Can I buy something or does the clutch rod have to be made? Doesnt sound too hard



Exactly!



True thats why an auto is better for wheeling but I just wont go there. Im a manual fan through and through give me a good shifting trans and ill wheel with the best of the autos:thumb:
No you won't. The only time a stick will wheel with the best of them is when you have enough motor to never need to shift, thus making you a 1% er.
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No you won't. The only time a stick will wheel with the best of them is when you have enough motor to never need to shift, thus making you a 1% er.
Maybe I am a 1% er
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A properly selected combination of an engine with adequate torque, and well matched transmission and axle ratios, considering tire size and vehicle weight means you should rarely be shifting.

Thats one of the advantages of a V8 / auto combo, they can use less gearing, and still generated plenty of torque, and then also be able to generate enough wheelspeed without shifting.

A reworked auto will also shift much faster without the neutral state, to keep momentum.


Thats been a pet-project of mine, I have compiled info from many members on here with their gear/transmission/tire setups, shift points, etc, and all of my various vehicles. Thats actually one of the problems with TJ wranglers, they are getting heavy for the 4.0, and with the stock AX15 type manual, you need to get to about 5.38-5.6x gears with 33s, to get 3rd gear to be 'the gear' that pulls most hills or mudholes without a shift, or gear down to 3.1-3.5 axle gears and use 2nd.
I with the OP that I prefer a manual, just because it's what I like. And auto may be easier to drive off road, but I don't go off road because it's easy. If I wanted easy I'd just stay on the pavement.
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