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Old June 11th, 2013, 04:25 PM   #1
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Here are the numbers for all Americans to pay for mandated healthcare. If you don't pay that then there will be a penalty for not paying the first penalty.
The last thing we need is the IRS digging into more of our lives, first it was just our taxes and income now it is going to be our health records.
They say this monstrosity can still be stopped. Lets hope and pray it is before its too late.

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/irs-...e-20000-family
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Old June 11th, 2013, 04:51 PM   #2
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If not I wont be filing I guess. I cant afford any of that (my blue cross blue sheild is 340 a month)

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Old June 11th, 2013, 04:58 PM   #3
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awesome. so people who really cant afford insurance because their employer doesn't offer it or you are self employed are double screwed now.

No insurance = fines and still paying for doctors visits when you need them, and scripts when a doc writes one.

Insurance = still out of pocket until you cover deductible then usally only 80% and of chorse office co-pays, then you have to pay monthly for it if you use it or not but no fines.

am I getting the jest of things? Seems like its still cheaper to take the fine.
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If not I wont be filing I guess. I cant afford any of that (my blue cross blue sheild is 340 a month)
I'm starting to wonder if that's the goal. Automatically makes criminals out of the millions that refuse while at the same time they save billions on tax returns... not to mention the massive seizure of property and freezing of bank accounts when people don't pay up...
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I'm starting to wonder if that's the goal. Automatically makes criminals out of the millions that refuse while at the same time they save billions on tax returns... not to mention the massive seizure of property and freezing of bank accounts when people don't pay up...
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Here are the numbers for all Americans to pay for mandated healthcare. If you don't pay that then there will be a penalty for not paying the first penalty.
The last thing we need is the IRS digging into more of our lives, first it was just our taxes and income now it is going to be our health records.
They say this monstrosity can still be stopped. Lets hope and pray it is before its too late.

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/irs-...e-20000-family
The $20,000 number is used as an example. The average will be what the average is, it's not something that's set now.
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Old June 12th, 2013, 12:17 AM   #8
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awesome. so people who really cant afford insurance because their employer doesn't offer it or you are self employed are double screwed now.

No insurance = fines and still paying for doctors visits when you need them, and scripts when a doc writes one.

Insurance = still out of pocket until you cover deductible then usally only 80% and of chorse office co-pays, then you have to pay monthly for it if you use it or not but no fines.

am I getting the jest of things? Seems like its still cheaper to take the fine.
Until something horrible happens and you rack up a huge medical bill that you can't pay.
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Old June 12th, 2013, 01:55 AM   #9
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I'm starting to wonder if that's the goal. Automatically makes criminals out of the millions that refuse while at the same time they save billions on tax returns... not to mention the massive seizure of property and freezing of bank accounts when people don't pay up...
Also when reality hits with this plan what will the next move be?

1) Repeal Obamacare
2) Move to a single payer system.


Hmm, what would the government like to do? Obamacare is a stepping stone.
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Old June 12th, 2013, 11:37 AM   #11
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Obamacare is a single payer system. That is what Obama wanted right from the beginning and those are his words.
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Old June 12th, 2013, 11:42 AM   #12
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The movement to repeal Obamacare is gaining a ton of support as We The People learn more and more about how absolutely disastrous it is and how much it's going to cost everyone.

We can only hope that conservatives take the Senate and reinforce their hold in the House next year.
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Old June 12th, 2013, 03:04 PM   #13
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The movement to repeal Obamacare is gaining a ton of support as We The People learn more and more about how absolutely disastrous it is and how much it's going to cost everyone.

We can only hope that conservatives take the Senate and reinforce their hold in the House next year.
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Old June 12th, 2013, 03:11 PM   #14
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Well, this could be interesting. Now we know how the IRS will enforce Obamacare.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013...=Share+Buttons

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REPUBLICAN REP. NOTICES IRS AGENTS TRAINING WITH AR-15S DURING DHS TOUR: ‘I’M LOOKING INTO THE ISSUE NOW’
Jun. 12, 2013 11:42am Dave Urbanski

This little item could give the IRS’ whole “targeting” conservatives scandal a brand-new twist.

Rep. Jeff Duncan (R-S.C.) tweeted that he observed IRS agents training with AR-15s when he toured the Department of Homeland Security:













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This is not the same America 10 years ago.
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