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Old March 20th, 2014, 08:54 AM   #1
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Exclamation what is the latest on cordless drills?

looking to buy a drill and batteries. Sick of buying Ryobi's.

Leaning toward dewalt or Milwaukee, but I don't know the latest with the 18V vs 20V, etc.

Recomendations?
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Old March 20th, 2014, 08:58 AM   #2
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I run 18v milwaukee fuel brushless drill and impact driver, no complaints, great power.
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Old March 20th, 2014, 09:03 AM   #3
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I wouldn't buy anything other than DeWalt. I have had my 18v lithium compact for several years now, the first 2 years it saw daily use, and I was not gentle with it. It still works flawlessly, and the batteries are just like the day I bought it

My uncle purchased the 20v xp (or x whatever it is), and he says it drills circles around his old ryobi
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Old March 20th, 2014, 09:10 AM   #4
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If you're going to use it ALOT then get a hilti setup. If you can't justify the $$ on the hilti; dewalt and Milwaukee will do fine. I've used all three at work. They all have performed well in the dirt, elements, etc etc. I'd rate the Milwaukee and dewalt about the same; we have worn out a couple(over a couple seasons of what is nothing less than abuse). I've never had a hilti fail; and the drill and impact I'm referring to is on its 4th year.
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Old March 20th, 2014, 09:17 AM   #5
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Rigid is the only one at home depot that still has lifetime warranty.

I bought their combo deal on sale for $200.

I love mine.
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Old March 20th, 2014, 09:19 AM   #6
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How well do any of these hold a charge if used only occasionally, like months between uses?
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Old March 20th, 2014, 09:23 AM   #7
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Have a 18v lithium Milwaukee that I burnt up at just over a year old that I really liked, factory repaired it for cost of shipping. I also have a dewalt 18 v lithium that stays in my work van, every time I've tried to use it this winter the batteries are dead. Keep your lithium batteries warm and they will last a lot longer and hold their charge.
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Old March 20th, 2014, 09:24 AM   #8
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Dewalt 18V or the Milwalkee fuel variants are both pretty good. The Dewalt 20V MAX is not really any different from an 18V Lithium, it just takes batteries that are in funky shape. Most of the drills with that style sliding latch have a very weak spot at the bottom of the handle, where they can break if dropped.

The "20V MAX" Just means that is the max they can be charged to. It's not actually the operating voltage. The regular 18 volts also have a 20 volt max charge. It's basically the same battery in a newly shaped case. They just needed a newer bigger number for advertising purposes and to get customers back with an updated line. The new style battery does not have as many tools available yet as the old one, although it is catching up.

I'd go with the 18V lithium Dewalt over the Milwalkee for the additional tool availability.
If you don't care about being able to pick up a random tool for cheap(like a 4.5 grinder or double cuts, or vacuum, etc) and having it work with your batteries, then the Milwalkee is about on par.
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Old March 20th, 2014, 09:27 AM   #9
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Keep your lithium batteries warm and they will last a lot longer and hold their charge.
This is true of all batteries. On the slope, we build heated insulated boxes for the chargers and batteries to keep them warm.
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Old March 20th, 2014, 09:34 AM   #10
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I have owned just about every battery powered drill on the market. The Snap on 18v is by far the best. But if you dont want to drop the cash on that, then Milwaukee is your best bet. Snap on is the only drill I have come across that has all steel gears inside. Only issue I have with it is that sometimes is has more power than I can handle. If it gets bound up drilling it will damn near break your wrist.

On a side note a friend came over one day with his brother. They asked about the snap on drill . I told them is the best there is. His brother said that hes never seen a battery powered drill that he couldn't bind up by holding onto the chuck. So I told him give it a try. His hand literally started to smoke
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Old March 20th, 2014, 09:34 AM   #11
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How well do any of these hold a charge if used only occasionally, like months between uses?
lithium holds pretty good, mine's been sitting since fall, I grabbed it the other day, did fine, put on charger and was fully charged again is a couple minutes so it had not lost much of its charge.
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Old March 20th, 2014, 09:35 AM   #12
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I've always been happy with DeWalt. I 've had 3 over the last 17 years, and all 3 work still (and have been used hard, much more than typical homeowner use, although not at contractor level).

My newest ones are the 20v Lithium (with the sliding kind of batteries) in a combo with the hammer drill and impact driver. I really like them both, power and battery longevity are excellent, and a big step from my ~10yr old 18v NiCad Dewalt.

The impact driver is awesome for running long 3.5 x #10 frame screws for rough work, and with small sockets. It is strong enough that you need to be careful with which bits you use, or it will snap them.

The drill is a little big/heavy, but works well. Almost too powerful when driving screws, but thats more getting used to the power compared to my older 18v one.

They both have automatic LED worklights which are nice, and are improved with a timer delay, compared with my borther-in-law's models, which the LEDs turn off when you let go of the trigger. So you can bump the trigger to turn on the LEDs, then have light to line up your work, then go. Useful when hanging kitchen cabinets, I can say!
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Old March 20th, 2014, 09:37 AM   #13
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How well do any of these hold a charge if used only occasionally, like months between uses?
Mine always seem pretty good. And I have 2 batteries for both, with 1 hour chargers, so its pretty hard to ever be short on batteries.

I have made sure not to leave mine out in the barn in the winter when its cold.
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Old March 20th, 2014, 09:40 AM   #14
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I got a box full of useless NiCad tools. A few are 12v, I may convert them to cigarette lighter plug.

Glad to hear the lithiums are more durable, might get a new drill now.
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Old March 20th, 2014, 09:47 AM   #15
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Hate on them if you must, but I bought the Craftsman 19.2 Li-ion setups (I upgraded to the Maxx batteries, not the little ones). I have beat the shit out of the set and it is still going strong.

What clinched it was the availability of a 1/2" impact and a cordless 4.5" angle grinder. I use those the most anymore. The drill, Sawzall, and impact driver are all about 10 years old now.

I also have the 4 battery charger/maintainer - very useful.
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Old March 20th, 2014, 09:58 AM   #16
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I got a box full of useless NiCad tools. A few are 12v, I may convert them to cigarette lighter plug.

Glad to hear the lithiums are more durable, might get a new drill now.
I was able to buy a lithium battery/charger for my 18v drill that originally had NiCad
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Old March 20th, 2014, 10:00 AM   #17
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I had Porter Cable, who was bought out by Dewalt. I found the battery life to be not so good. I switched to Milwaukee and have been happy.
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Old March 20th, 2014, 10:01 AM   #18
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Old March 20th, 2014, 10:17 AM   #19
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I do a lot of field work and use the Makita 18v combo exclusively. Drill/driver/hammer and impact driver. Great price and great batteries. They charge quick and can be left on the charger indefinitely. My drill has fallen from the top of a ladder repeatedly with no damage.

Rigid batteries blow period. I loved my Rigid drill but the batteries eat donkey balls.

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Old March 20th, 2014, 10:36 AM   #20
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I've been wondering the same thing too. I have old Black and Decker combo set. Now that the tax man gave me back some of my money I was thinking about dropping some of it on a new set.
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