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Old May 28th, 2013, 08:47 AM   #61
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It is said to be approx. 6000 years.
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Old May 28th, 2013, 09:09 AM   #63
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I'm seriously going to spit my coffee out.
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Old May 28th, 2013, 12:27 PM   #65
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I don't debate religion much anymore because I've found that the "faithful" do not process information the same way as those of us who are critical thinkers. Religious people argue from the heart and believe what they are saying is absolutely true because the WANT to. Their belief system can be pretty rewarding if they live their life a certain way and in their minds truly want or need to believe what they have been told is true. A fact to them is far different than a fact to a critical thinker, the same can be said for evidence pertaining to their faith. To the faithful, they are correct in their thinking despite information presented to them that clearly contradicts their way of thinking. They don't see that they are/could be wrong because they just don't process information the same way as the non-or less religious. With this information in mind, presenting evidence or even facts that disagree with the faithful's beliefs is a pointless gesture.
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Old May 28th, 2013, 12:50 PM   #66
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Like pissing up a rope.
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Old May 28th, 2013, 01:32 PM   #67
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6000 years. LMFAO
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Old May 28th, 2013, 02:08 PM   #68
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Dinosaurs didn't exist either.
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Our whole universe was in a hot dense state,
Then nearly fourteen billion years ago expansion started. Wait...
The Earth began to cool,
The autotrophs began to drool,
Neanderthals developed tools,
We built a wall (we built the pyramids),
Math, science, history, unraveling the mysteries,
That all started with the big bang!

"Since the dawn of man" is really not that long,
As every galaxy was formed in less time than it takes to sing this song.
A fraction of a second and the elements were made.
The bipeds stood up straight,
The dinosaurs all met their fate,
They tried to leap but they were late
And they all died (they froze their asses off)
The oceans and Pangea
See ya wouldn't wanna be ya
Set in motion by the same big bang!

It all started with the big BANG!

It's expanding ever outward but one day
It will pause and start to go the other way,
Collapsing ever inward, we won't be here, it won't be heard
Our best and brightest figure that it'll make an even bigger bang!

Australopithecus would really have been sick of us
Debating how we're here, they're catching deer (we're catching viruses)
Religion or astronomy (Descartes or Deuteronomy)
It all started with the big bang!

Music and mythology, Einstein and astrology
It all started with the big bang!
It all started with the big BANG!
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You should look into how many manuscripts are there to back up those 'fairy tales that have been re-written'. They span decades and the text is almost, baring a few differences in spelling and Translation into English, the exact same thing you can read at any hotel.
Right. That is why there is only one bible and one denomination of Christians...
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If the earth is as old as some claim, 4-5 billion yrs. why do we find soft tissue in dinosaurs bones? that have been extinct for ?thousands of years.
Why are the oceans not full of sediment from millions of years of sedimentary runoff?
Why are there not bones and artifacts everywhere we dig?
Kickstand mentioned about the big bang, where did the stuff come from the big bang?
You cannot get something from nothing.
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Never waste a good coffee. Unless its Starbucks. Spit that shit out.
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You cannot get something from nothing.
Did anyone else just picture Eddie Murphy "raw"??
"Nothing from nothing leaves nothin. Had to do somethin the motherfucker punched ya in the mouth!"
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It's a long read but the scientist describes it much better than I ever could.
There are scientists that actually think of a young earth with evidence to back up their claims.

http://www.creationworldview.org/articles_view.asp?id=1
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Why are the oceans not full of sediment from millions of years of sedimentary runoff?
Why are there not bones and artifacts everywhere we dig?
Kickstand mentioned about the big bang, where did the stuff come from the big bang?
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It's a long read but the scientist describes it much better than I ever could.
There are scientists that actually think of a young earth with evidence to back up their claims.

http://www.creationworldview.org/articles_view.asp?id=1
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Aber nailed it!! Well done.
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That link is a super long read. I'll check it out tonight.
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It is always good to hear what both sides have to say(present their case). In schools today you are only allowed to hear the side of evolution, not creation.
It would be like going to court and only allowing the prosecution to present his case. There are always two sides to every story. You cannot get to the truth if you only hear one side of the evidence.
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That link is a super long read. I'll check it out tonight.
I'm glad to hear you will at least check it out.
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