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Old May 10th, 2013, 11:24 AM   #21
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Are the assault zip guns still banned?
Only if they have a fore grip
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Old May 10th, 2013, 11:25 AM   #22
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Old May 10th, 2013, 11:29 AM   #23
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I've been shooting plastic ammo quite a bit recently, but it still has a steel rim for the ejector to grab and hold the primer. I'm sure it wouldn't be hard at all to use electronic ignition and make the ammo all plastic.
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Old May 10th, 2013, 11:55 AM   #24
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I find it funny that the government's concern is that criminals could be printing guns in their basement. Or that's at least their cover story for the real reason.

Right....criminals are going to spend thousands of dollars on a 3D printer for guns when they can go buy untraceable black market guns for a couple hundred bucks.
Nahh, criminals don't buy guns from the black market, that's illegal.

They go to the gun store and buy guns...and illegal DVD copies, that's why we need more gun control!!!!!
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Old May 10th, 2013, 12:00 PM   #25
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They use a steel nail as a firing pin. The creators have already made the point that they WILL set off metal detectors.
do you really think you couldn't get a nail thru security easier the a complete gun, or even bullets for that matter. In, say, your lap top?

you might think they are retarded, but that doesn't make them any less of a threat.
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Old May 10th, 2013, 12:08 PM   #26
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You could still do more damage with a hard plastic improvised knife than a bulky, awkward single shot .22 Short pistol.
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Old May 10th, 2013, 12:19 PM   #27
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so, any one wonder how these guns would do going thru an airport metal detector?
What airports still use metal detectors?
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Old May 10th, 2013, 12:28 PM   #28
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What airports still use metal detectors?
what one doesn't?
when I went thru Detroit and Tampa last Feb, I went thru metal detectors, only a select few where directed to the scanners.

Plus court rooms and places like that...
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Old May 10th, 2013, 12:32 PM   #29
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You could still do more damage with a hard plastic improvised knife than a bulky, awkward single shot .22 Short pistol.
Not without getting very very close.


I must say, I'm not usually up on conspiracy theories, and all that jazz, but I'm shocked at some of the comments here showing they don't seem to think this could be a bad news tool.

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Old May 10th, 2013, 12:49 PM   #30
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How in the fukc did we get to this point where we focus in on the 1:1,000,000 scenario and completely ignore the 999,999:1,000,000 ones?
Because then you'd also have to admit that its statistically more likely that you are more likely to shoot someoen accidentally then you are to stop a crime.
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Old May 10th, 2013, 12:56 PM   #31
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Not without getting very very close.


I must say, I'm not usually up on conspiracy theories, and all that jazz, but I'm shocked at some of the comments here showing they don't seem to think this could be a bad news tool.
If we banned every emerging technology that might be used for nefarious purposes (no matter how beneficial it will be for the future) where would we be?


It's illegal for the average joe to make these plastic turds and sell them already because it qualifies as a zip gun. That's why these guys are trying to get their FFL.

If you're worried because people are just going to start printing them and using them for crimes you might want to remember that you can build a zip gun that can use everything up to 12 gauge from shit at the hardware store down the road.
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Old May 10th, 2013, 01:08 PM   #32
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If we banned every emerging technology that might be used for nefarious purposes (no matter how beneficial it will be for the future) where would we be?


It's illegal for the average joe to make these plastic turds and sell them already because it qualifies as a zip gun. That's why these guys are trying to get their FFL.

If you're worried because people are just going to start printing them and using them for crimes you might want to remember that you can build a zip gun that can use everything up to 12 gauge from shit at the hardware store down the road.
I'm not disagreeing with what you are saying here, but when I mentioned getting them thru metal detectors, you and a couple others made comments that were more about that not working for one reason or another.
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Old May 10th, 2013, 02:25 PM   #33
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I'm not disagreeing with what you are saying here, but when I mentioned getting them thru metal detectors, you and a couple others made comments that were more about that not working for one reason or another.
I just went back and re-read what I posted and it definitely came across as dickish. That really wasn't my intent with it and I apologize if I seemed combative in that reply.



This technology is just emerging and what is available to the general public, as usual with new technology, is pretty lousy and expensive. It's going to be quite a while before anything really useful is available when it comes to firearms. That's all I'm trying to say here. Could it become a problem in the future? Of course it could but that's years away and most people now immediately associate 3D printing only with firearms. It's a shame because I see it as the beginning of us having real replicators like we saw in Star Trek.

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Old May 10th, 2013, 02:45 PM   #34
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SS is a dip shit. I saw a show where they talk about taking a 3D printer to Mars or the Moon and using the sand to make tools, parts, etc as needed. I think SS is a dip shit.
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Old May 10th, 2013, 03:41 PM   #35
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Not so fast skippy.

http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2013/05/...s-off-website/
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Old May 10th, 2013, 05:07 PM   #36
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SS is a dip shit. I saw a show where they talk about taking a 3D printer to Mars or the Moon and using the sand to make tools, parts, etc as needed. I think SS is a dip shit.
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Old May 10th, 2013, 05:45 PM   #37
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I must say, I'm not usually up on conspiracy theories, and all that jazz, but I'm shocked at some of the comments here showing they don't seem to think this could be a bad news tool.
I don't think this is a "bad news tool" because EVERYTHING out there can be a weapon. There are weapons that are over 5,000 lbs, can travel 100 mph and 7 years old kids have access to them everyday...
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umm, no.

However a guy who is not a good person will buy a printer, make 100's of these guns and sell them for 1/2 the price as a black market gun.
because the world will be over run with guns made on 3d printers that last for a couple sessions of shooting
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Old May 11th, 2013, 08:56 AM   #39
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This was just a ploy to get us to buy your Bitcoins

"Wilson then raised $20,000 in Bitcoins for the project but Stratasys repossessed his printer."
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Old May 11th, 2013, 02:04 PM   #40
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