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Old May 7th, 2013, 11:08 AM   #41
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That may be true, and if it is that needs to be the focus, what was known, what should have been known, and what should have been done about it before hand. Not what was said on a Sunday morning news program after the fact.
What was said about it after the fact is just as important as how it went down.

It was clear that when Watergate happened, the action itself was illegal but what was said after the fact by Nixon was nothing but lies.

Same thing applies here.
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Old May 7th, 2013, 11:19 AM   #42
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What was said about it after the fact is just as important as how it went down.

It was clear that when Watergate happened, the action itself was illegal but what was said after the fact by Nixon was nothing but lies.

Same thing applies here.
If that's whats important to you. I generally assume that what I'm being told is what they want me to know and that it is always a mix of lies and truth. I'm more interested in finding the truth than exploring the lies.

The circus that is unfolding is just part of the political theater to keep us entertained. Real issues and tough decisions will continue to be ignored.
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Old May 7th, 2013, 11:28 AM   #43
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If that's whats important to you. I generally assume that what I'm being told is what they want me to know and that it is always a mix of lies and truth. I'm more interested in finding the truth than exploring the lies.

The circus that is unfolding is just part of the political theater to keep us entertained. Real issues and tough decisions will continue to be ignored.
At first I thought you just didn't care about the cover up but I see what you're saying now and I agree.

Learning the truth about what happened and then exploring the lies that were told afterward is definitely the proper process for this situation.
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Learning the truth about what happened and then exploring the lies that were told afterward is definitely the proper process for this situation.
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Could you imagine you and a few other people are hold up in a building that's being taken over by a angry mob that out numbers you a hundred to one. Your able to fend them off for hours on end, but quickly running out of ammo. Only to have your government turn its back on you and not send help. This makes my fucking blood boil Obama should not only be impeached but should also be tried for high treason.
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Old May 7th, 2013, 11:55 AM   #46
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Anyone here who has served in the military at any capacity should feel outraged. You volunteer to serve your country. Your govt. turns its back on you and watches you die. Which brings up that age old question where's the outrage.
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Could you imagine you and a few other people are hold up in a building that's being taken over by a angry mob that out numbers you a hundred to one. Your able to fend them off for hours on end, but quickly running out of ammo. Only to have your government turn its back on you and not send help. This makes my fucking blood boil Obama should not only be impeached but should also be tried for high treason.
Wrong.

It wasn't an angry mob. It was a planned, coordinated strike by trained jihadists... HUGE difference.
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Wrong.

It wasn't an angry mob. It was a planned, coordinated strike by trained jihadists... HUGE difference.
Ok an angry mob of trained jihadists.


I thought everyone already had that notion since it was in raghead country unless there's a Benghazi Idaho or some shit.
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Old May 7th, 2013, 12:50 PM   #49
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I don't care anymore, it's not worth my time. Yes they have beat it out of me
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Ok an angry mob of trained jihadists.


I thought everyone already had that notion since it was in raghead country unless there's a Benghazi Idaho or some shit.
You're missing the point. It wasn't a mob.

It was a company of enemy soldiers conducting a highly coordinated and lethal raid.
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You're missing the point. It wasn't a mob.

It was a company of enemy soldiers conducting a highly coordinated and lethal raid.
Lol I'm not missing the point I agree with you I guess I should of thought harder and not used the word mob. However smells like a rag head acts like a rag head there all just bottom feeding scum of the earth in my book. My point was more centered on the Americans that died there that day and how betrayed they most of felt leading up to their deaths. it's an outrage
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Here is a good read on this whole topic

http://tavernkeepers.com/benghazi-mu...asnt-the-plan/
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Here is a good read on this whole topic

http://tavernkeepers.com/benghazi-mu...asnt-the-plan/
I stopped reading after the forth paragraph. I want facts, not fiction.
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If that's whats important to you. I generally assume that what I'm being told is what they want me to know and that it is always a mix of lies and truth. I'm more interested in finding the truth than exploring the lies.

The circus that is unfolding is just part of the political theater to keep us entertained. Real issues and tough decisions will continue to be ignored.
Or more importantly what sort of fucked up harmful shit is going to get pushed through the back door while we all focus on this.

I believe our government plays chess at a level we don't even understand when it comes to spinning things and setting up fall guys so that other issues can skate by undetected.
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I stopped reading after the forth paragraph. I want facts, not fiction.
What is fact anymore?

Everything in this country is spun left, right, up, down, or whatever way someone needs it to be so you believe their point.
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Or more importantly what sort of fucked up harmful shit is going to get pushed through the back door while we all focus on this.

I believe our government plays chess at a level we don't even understand when it comes to spinning things and setting up fall guys so that other issues can skate by undetected.
I do find it amazing how good of magicians politicians are.

Most of them seem like fucking morons but they do get their agenda through.

I wonder if they are all handed a handbook when they are elected. "How to fukc someone without them knowing"
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I stopped reading after the forth paragraph. I want facts, not fiction.
Fact Americans died. Fact the Obama administration turned there backs on them and let them die. I guess you don't need a whole article on what could or probably happened. But the facts are 4 Americans died and The Obama administration swept it under the rug, as is if "what difference does it make"
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What was said about it after the fact is just as important as how it went down.
I don't know what kind of house others grew up in. But when I was a kid and I screwed up and admitted it my punishment was mild and forgiveness shortly followed. When I fucked up and lied about it punishment was worse and some trust was lost.

I agree after the fact is just as important as what happened.

I look at the Cigargate scandal. I could care less that he was married and getting oral from some slut in the oval office. I was more concerned that he lied about something so trivial(as everyone seemed to see it). If he was lying about trivial shit what else important was he covering up too?
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all i care about is they requested more security multiple times, and the request was denied higher up the chain. thats sad!

the bottom line is hillary is in charge of how much security is available at a given embassy.

there is a battle group with an aircraft carrier or two in the gulf. we have air bases in iraq, afghanistan, turkey, ect...
at the very least air support could have gotten there pretty quickly. mabey boots on the ground takes longer, air support is pretty quick.
hell even israel could have sent fighters, they love bombing rag heads! they are pretty friggin close.

no one wanted to save these guys! what is the political advantage for obama to not help them?
the libs dont do anything without an agenda. what is there to gain from this?

in the end nothing will come of this tragedy. the public is too stupid to care. the media will not widely report it.
what they do report will be whitewashed to look like a horrible mixup.

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I stopped reading after the forth paragraph. I want facts, not fiction.
What facts will a Benghazi story have to have before you believe it has any credibility? The story you call fiction does a pretty good job at connecting some dots about an incident that our government wants to give us as little information on as possible for some reason. Until the facts actually come out of the mouths of everyone involved and we find out what really happened, it's foolish to dismiss as fiction any story that seems plausible, based on things that we DO know, simply because we may not like what the story tells us. The old phrase "Our government would NEVER do that" has been non-applicable for some time now.
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