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Old April 24th, 2013, 09:41 AM   #101
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Good thing this isn't a "how many beers have you drank" thread... oh wait I think there is already one of those
That is one cause of liver failure
I am serious though, if you are taking in over 150 grams of protein a day you should be getting your liver function tested before you begin that diet. There is no sense trying to lose weight and just causing yourself a worse problem down the road.
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Holy shit that's low. I'm between 350-400 a day, depending if it's a lifting day or not. I can't imagine being that low, I'd be starving.
^^ How are you managing this?
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Some of the protein intake I am seeing here is a little scary. Consuming that much protein for long periods of time can put a strain on your liver. I was doing a high protein diet and my liver and kidney counts went through the roof. Now admittedly my kidney and liver were both a little damaged from the pills I took for my heart problem but nothing else has caused that kind of spike.
I have a lot of healthy recipes but they are all vegetarian.
I personally do count calories because it's the easiest thing for me with the app I have on my phone. I eat a lot of vegetables and I bulk almost everything I cook with veggies because they are high nutrition and low calorie. Also Mike and I almost never get sick. i never had a cold even once this winter and I think it's due to the vegetables since I don't take any crazy supplements or nutrition boosting shakes.
For muscle recovery, it is suggested up to 1-2 grams of protein per lb of bodyweight for anyone who works out at a high intensity.

On that note I still think you don't see enough calories or protein in your diet.

I used to get strep throat 3-4 times a year, doc wanted to remove my tonsils. Since I cleaned up my eating I haven't been sick other than a cold that lasted a day or two once. I do think the increase in fruits and veggies is responsible for most of that, as well as the decrease in processed foods.

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No. I respect what those guys do, as far as the discipline, the diet, etc. But the body building industry as a whole isn't of much interest to me.

I like things like strongman, mma, crossfit, powerlifting for training/working out. The healthiest people walking around today are those who are well rounded athletes. Not a steroided out body builder, or an ultra endurance athlete (marathons, ultra marathons, etc.) but look at the health of nfl players, motocrossers, tennis players, mma fighters, baseball players, etc. They train for purpose and do functional work to get there.
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That is one cause of liver failure
I am serious though, if you are taking in over 150 grams of protein a day you should be getting your liver function tested before you begin that diet. There is no sense trying to lose weight and just causing yourself a worse problem down the road.
You need to read more. There is plenty of information to dispute your claim.

You need to stay hydrated on a high protein diet, one of the many reasons the other "side effects" can occur is because you aren't hydrated enough. Drink at least a gallon of water a day. Or more.

You're body can only break down so much protein so quickly, spread it out, don't eat 150 grams of protein in a sitting.

By depriving yourself of protein (for muscle recovery) you're depriving yourself of the ability to build muscle, which is the biggest consumer of calories in your body, so instead of helping your body eat the fat away, your hindering it.
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For muscle recovery, it is suggested up to 1-2 grams of protein per lb of bodyweight for anyone who works out at a high intensity.

^^ This.. Kerry is right also, your body can only process so much protien. However, adding digestive enzymes to your daily vitamins will help your body use all the protien you're taking in. I try to get 300-350 a day(1.5xBW)
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For muscle recovery, it is suggested up to 1-2 grams of protein per lb of bodyweight for anyone who works out at a high intensity.

On that note I still think you don't see enough calories or protein in your diet.

I used to get strep throat 3-4 times a year, doc wanted to remove my tonsils. Since I cleaned up my eating I haven't been sick other than a cold that lasted a day or two once. I do think the increase in fruits and veggies is responsible for most of that, as well as the decrease in processed foods.


No. I respect what those guys do, as far as the discipline, the diet, etc. But the body building industry as a whole isn't of much interest to me.

I like things like strongman, mma, crossfit, powerlifting for training/working out. The healthiest people walking around today are those who are well rounded athletes. Not a steroided out body builder, or an ultra endurance athlete (marathons, ultra marathons, etc.) but look at the health of nfl players, motocrossers, tennis players, mma fighters, baseball players, etc. They train for purpose and do functional work to get there.
I do as well, but in the sports you listed none of the athletes get to prance in front of a camera wearing an unbuttoned shirt and cowboy hat.
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^^ This.. Kerry is right also, your body can only process so much protien. However, adding digestive enzymes to your daily vitamins will help your body use all the protien you're taking in. I try to get 300-350 a day(1.5xBW)

Wrong.

Your body can only process so much protein. From there you will shit/piss it out.
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Wrong.

Your body can only process so much protein. From there you will shit/piss it out.
........ Did you read that quote?
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Wrong.

Your body can only process so much protein. From there you will shit/piss it out.
this.....just look at your piss, if its bright ass yellow you're pissing out protein and not drinking enough water.

If its perfectly clear you're well hydrated but probably not taking in enough protein.
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^^ This.. Kerry is right also, your body can only process so much protien. However, adding digestive enzymes to your daily vitamins and drinking an ass-load of waterwill help your body use all the protien you're taking in. I try to get 300-350 a day(1.5xBW)


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this.....just look at your piss, if its bright ass yellow you're pissing out protein and not drinking enough water.

If its perfectly clear you're well hydrated but probably not taking in enough protein.
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Coincidentally Marks Daily Apple just posted an article on "How much protein you should be eating"

http://www.marksdailyapple.com/how-m...#axzz2RIloDC5T
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Coincidentally Marks Daily Apple just posted an article on "How much protein you should be eating"

http://www.marksdailyapple.com/how-m...#axzz2RIloDC5T
Good article.
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Some of the protein intake I am seeing here is a little scary. Consuming that much protein for long periods of time can put a strain on your liver. I was doing a high protein diet and my liver and kidney counts went through the roof. Now admittedly my kidney and liver were both a little damaged from the pills I took for my heart problem but nothing else has caused that kind of spike.
I have a lot of healthy recipes but they are all vegetarian.
I personally do count calories because it's the easiest thing for me with the app I have on my phone. I eat a lot of vegetables and I bulk almost everything I cook with veggies because they are high nutrition and low calorie. Also Mike and I almost never get sick. i never had a cold even once this winter and I think it's due to the vegetables since I don't take any crazy supplements or nutrition boosting shakes.
How much protein are you aiming for?

According most protein articles I've read you should be shooting for at least .75-1 gram per pound, more if you are excersizing regularly.
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How much protein are you aiming for?

According most protein articles I've read you should be shooting for at least .75-1 gram per pound, more if you are excersizing regularly.
I was doing about 160 plus grams of protein a day when I had issues. Now I eat about 50 to 75 but lately I haven't even been able to eat more than 600 to 800 calories a day, not because thats where I want to be but I have been working so much I have been forgetting to eat. I always thought that was something people just said because I used to have a stress eating trigger and now when I get stressed I just feel sick.
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How do you get that much protein into your diet without adding protein shakes and other processed shit?

I've been eating a relatively balanced diet around 2200-2500 calories a day. I burn about 4,000 calories a week in straight exercise/strength training, etc. That doesn't include my normal metabolic rate which I did have tested which was around 2700 calories a day.

I'm at 217, and want to lose the rest of what body fat I have. My current set-up just doesn't seem to be doing it, although I've cheated here and there which leads me to believe I'm just not eating enough calories of the right stuff.
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Today:

8 oz of steak (63 grams)
4 eggs (24 grams)

Protein shake (30 Grams)
+1-2 tablespoons peanut butter (4-8 Grams)
+1 cup milk (8 grams)

Chicken Breast (30 grams)
2 eggs (12 grams)

Peanuts 1/2 cup (18 grams)
Sunflower seeds 1/4 cup (6 grams)

Chicken Breast (30 grams)
Shrimp 6 peices (7 grams)
2 slices bacon (chopped into bits and cooked in my veggies I had with dinner)6 grams


That was my protein intake today. 238 Grams. I will still probably have some sort of food tonight. 175x1.5=262, so I'm a bit low today. Not enough that I care, but a small protein shake would make up that difference, or the handful of pistachios I'm about to eat.

I don't know if any of the vegetables/fruits I ate today have any measureable amount of protein, but i didn't count any if they do.

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Today:

8 oz of steak (63 grams)
4 eggs (24 grams)

Protein shake (30 Grams)
+1-2 tablespoons peanut butter (4-8 Grams)
+1 cup milk (8 grams)

Chicken Breast (30 grams)
2 eggs (12 grams)

Peanuts 1/2 cup (18 grams)
Sunflower seeds 1/4 cup (6 grams)

Chicken Breast (30 grams)
Shrimp 6 peices (7 grams)
2 slices bacon (chopped into bits and cooked in my veggies I had with dinner)6 grams


That was my protein intake today. 238 Grams. I will still probably have some sort of food tonight. 175x1.5=262, so I'm a bit low today. Not enough that I care, but a small protein shake would make up that difference, or the handful of pistachios I'm about to eat.

I don't know if any of the vegetables/fruits I ate today have any measureable amount of protein, but i didn't count any if they do.
My intake is similar, with added protien shake mid day and immediatly after the gym, or one before bed if I don't lift. I get 150 grams from the shakes alone. But damn is it expensive!!
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