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Old April 17th, 2013, 11:16 PM   #1
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Alright guys so you may have seen my previous posts the past few days about my track bar and such and just a heads up, that issue is now fixed. (For those of you that hadn't seen it, it was loose at the lower mount, I bought a new bar and it is now tight)

Anyways before I had done the track bar I replaced the shocks with Bilstein 5100 shocks because the Rough Countries were shit. That fixed a lot of the rough ride and bump steer I would get occasionally. I then still noticed after I did the shocks that my track bar was loose at the lower mount and I was getting a rattling noise from under the drivers side of the vehicle. I thought it may be the loose track bar.

Well after I replaced the track bar, I am still getting that rattling noise, and it occurs everytime I hit a bump, big or small, obviously louder the bigger the bump. Its not as bad at faster speeds but thats a given. I have also noticed that when I turn the steering wheel from side to side at a certain point I feel a "pop".

Im curious as to what this might be, there doesnt seem to be any other symptoms yet becides the loud annoying rattling. But this might turn into a bigger issue depending on the source.

I was thinking maybe my drag link/possible pitman arm?

What about the steering shaft, will this cause this noise/pop?

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Old April 18th, 2013, 06:10 AM   #2
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Have someone turn the wheel back and forth while you look for slop in the front end.
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Old April 18th, 2013, 06:30 AM   #3
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Control arm bolts, sway bar links or mounts? Lower shock bolt?? Just some quick ideas
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Old April 18th, 2013, 06:31 AM   #4
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Ball joints or control arm bushings is my guess
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Old April 18th, 2013, 06:50 AM   #5
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Its a Jeep. They make noise...
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Old April 18th, 2013, 07:15 AM   #6
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is the front locked?
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prolly control arm bushings mine did the same thing
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Old April 18th, 2013, 07:40 AM   #8
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Check everything, once you get to a certain age and mileage you will need to maintain your vehicle, you should be doing it the whole time.

Use google if you cannot figure it out or take it to a professional.

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Old April 18th, 2013, 07:44 AM   #9
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its an old jeep, what do you expect... if you hope to eliminate all noises on it, sell it now. so long as it drives straight and doesnt wobble, call it good.
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Old April 18th, 2013, 07:45 AM   #10
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Buy a DD and park it. Best thing I ever did.
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I got to drive it more today and noticed it ha slight wobble when I hit dips, potholes or rivets in the road. The track bar and shocks are fine, normally if I didn't have any other symptoms becides noise I'd let it be but play in the steering isn't exactly good. Other than the noise, how can you check to see if a control arm bushing is bad? Some might say you can visually inspect it but I don't see how that's possible when its almost impossible to see with it pressed it there
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A rattle wont likely be related to a wobble. Your asking easily searcheable questions. Wobble can be wheel bearings, tie rod ends, ball joints, out of balance tire etc or a small conbination of.them. youve been told how to diagnose it already several times in each thread, quit being lazy and asking a shitload of wide open questions and fix it or have someone else. Its an 11 year old jeep, shits worn out, and you stressed it even more with a shitty lift.
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A rattle wont likely be related to a wobble. Your asking easily searcheable questions. Wobble can be wheel bearings, tie rod ends, ball joints, out of balance tire etc or a small conbination of.them. youve been told how to diagnose it already several times in each thread, quit being lazy and asking a shitload of wide open questions and fix it or have someone else. Its an 11 year old jeep, shits worn out, and you stressed it even more with a shitty lift.
Isn't any diagnosis question open ended? I figured instead of posting in the same thread 100 times that was dead I'd make a new one for updates on what I now know. It's not like I'm being lazy, I've been under it 100 times now and replaced the axle shaft u joints, the shocks, and track bar. Isn't that what this forum is for , to ask for help? If you don't want to help and bitch then gtfo.

On a more positive note, I think I may have found where the rattle is coming from. Noticed this morning on my way into work that when I brake over a bump it won't rattle. Going to pull the tire off after work and inspect the caliper. I'll keep you guys posted.

And some of you guys might not need this information, but I'm sure simeone else out there will, come across this thread, and hopefully help them.
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Old April 21st, 2013, 05:17 PM   #14
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Update: Well I found out where the rattling noise was coming from, as I thought the caliper was not properly put back on when I did the Axle Shaft U-Joints.

On the other hand, the popping in the steering wheel still persists. After having a friend move the steering wheel from side to side for me, I found that the popping is coming from exactly where the Steering Intermediate Shaft goes into the Steering Gear Box. It would also appear that the gear box is slightly leaking from the same spot.

Is this a common problem? How can I go about repairing this popping, do I need a new gear box or is there some kind of seal?

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