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Old April 20th, 2013, 05:13 PM   #1
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Default obs powerstroke no start

it's a '96 with 292k miles and it was a hard starter when I bought it in August.
My brother rolled it on it's side back in the fall so it has been sitting for a while. During that time I replaced the glowplugs and uvch on both banks along with the gaskets and plugs. 2 of the plugs were melted so I knew at least a couple of the GPs were bad. After I got everything back together in january I got it started up to move it still started rough but got going. When I moved it the shifter snapped in the steering column, awesome right?

Now I can't get it started. I drained the fuel bowl and filled it half way with diesel 911 and put the rest in the full tank of fuel (fuel from november probably doesn't help much). I'm getting black smoke out of the exhaust and it seems to get started but as soon as I let off the started it dies out.

The GPR seems to be working and I have jumped it with the same result. Before all of this happened it would start, run rough for a couple minutes, and then run just as well as my '00 powerstroke (in perfect working order).

-Did I forget to plug something in when I put the motor wiring harness back in?
-Did one or more injectors take a shit?
-could rolling the truck on its side have tripped some sensor?

I don't want to dump a ton of money into it just to have a running 300k mile 16 year old truck that is worth more parted out. If I can get it back running without spending too much I'll throw a flatbed on it and have a good work truck. If not my options are sell it as is or scrap it. I just need to do something with my driveway ornament.
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Old April 20th, 2013, 06:18 PM   #2
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You will need someone with Scanner to check out oil pressure and IPR duty to see what going.


Have you tried plug block heater for about 2 hours and see what happened. It would get couple of long cranks before it come alive. Batteries and connectors must be good condition or it crank slow.
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Old April 20th, 2013, 07:12 PM   #3
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I'd check the GP wiring harness plug on the vavle cover gasket. Those are easy to forget....
If 1 is unplugged, it won't start. Maybe the cam sensor?
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Old April 20th, 2013, 07:38 PM   #4
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You will need someone with Scanner to check out oil pressure and IPR duty to see what going.


Have you tried plug block heater for about 2 hours and see what happened. It would get couple of long cranks before it come alive. Batteries and connectors must be good condition or it crank slow.
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I'd check the GP wiring harness plug on the vavle cover gasket. Those are easy to forget....
If 1 is unplugged, it won't start. Maybe the cam sensor?
I'll re check the wiring and plug it in for a little bit tomorrow. It was dark and cold when I put a lot back in the truck so I might pop the valve covers and give everything a good once over.

On a positive note I pulled all of my two stoke lawn tools out of storage and most started right up when I put fresh fuel in... At least I could get a few motors to start up today
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Is there oil in the HPOP reservoir? If the IPR goes bad it will allow the oil to drain off causing a no start .
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Oil was about a quart below the full line so I topped it off. It was changed about a month before the roll over. When it rolled about a gallon came out through the air filter which was replaced with new... so I know the oil is pretty clean.

HPOP reservoir level was good.

There was a plug that wasn't "clipped" in near the turbo, it wasn't the type of clip for the EBPV?

As Milwaukee350 suggested I plugged in the heater so in a little while I'll try starting it again.
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Oil was about a quart below the full line so I topped it off. It was changed about a month before the roll over. When it rolled about a gallon came out through the air filter which was replaced with new... so I know the oil is pretty clean.

HPOP reservoir level was good.

There was a plug that wasn't "clipped" in near the turbo, it wasn't the type of clip for the EBPV?

As Milwaukee350 suggested I plugged in the heater so in a little while I'll try starting it again.

And recharge batteries too. The faster crank it should able start. If not then you will need scanner to check. I have scanner here.
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Why should he have to plug it in?
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Old April 21st, 2013, 03:58 PM   #11
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Well, it started right up! I plugged in the connector I mentioned, put another quart of oil in, and had it plugged in for 2 hours. I'm letting it run to charge up the batteries now. I'll try starting it cold later on.
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Why should he have to plug it in?


Cause I have work on couple PSD and I wasn't going DEAL with BURN OUT starter and dead batteries. If you try plug for 1 hour or longer you would have notice huge difference in cold start. When I am working on PSD I just plugged so know it will start easy after it fixed.
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Cause I have work on couple PSD and I wasn't going DEAL with BURN OUT starter and dead batteries. If you try plug for 1 hour or longer you would have notice huge difference in cold start. When I am working on PSD I just plugged so know it will start easy after it fixed.
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Old April 21st, 2013, 06:32 PM   #15
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God damn this is painful to read
Fuck off, the guy is doing very well.

Keep up the good progress, Dan!
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Fuck off, the guy is doing very well.

Keep up the good progress, Dan!
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God damn this is painful to read
IMO his posts have been getting better and easier to read. It's got to be a bitch to try and communicate when you can't hear.

It's just his advice, if you don't like it don't read it.
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Yeah fukc off guy

Thanks for the info 350
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Going thro the same problem with my powerstroke pissed me off enough to rip it out and put a cummins in so I got tons or new parts for your truck also take the tapits of and check the oil flow coming out of you injector spouts might have one hanging open but deff put on a scaner and doing the buzz test and check your ipr duty cycle and the hpop pressure and also run a cylinder con. Test should get ya running in the right direction before you thro parts at it they get costly fast!
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Going thro the same problem with my powerstroke pissed me off enough to rip it out and put a cummins in so I got tons or new parts for your truck also take the tapits of and check the oil flow coming out of you injector spouts might have one hanging open but deff put on a scaner and doing the buzz test and check your ipr duty cycle and the hpop pressure and also run a cylinder con. Test should get ya running in the right direction before you thro parts at it they get costly fast!
Are you deaf too?
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