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Old April 9th, 2013, 07:16 AM   #41
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I have to agree with tgmaul on most of this. Our nations food supply is incredible meesed up. It just starts with the seeds, then it is the bug control, then the animals they feed it to, then how they medically treat the animals, then how it is processed, packaged and delivered to your store. I am sure it has nothing to do with everyone getting cancer, obesity and starting to die at younger and younger ages.
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Look at the average american though, they think it's ok to be a fatass because everyone else is too, who cares about the health ramifications......

Same with the food, actually half the americans don't even eat monsanto grown vegetables because they don't even consume vegetables.

They eat their food out of a box, add water, simmer for 15 minutes, eat.

Unpackage box, microwave.

Drive to window, order bag of grease.

Drive to restaurant, ask waitress whats the "healthy" option on menu....

I have friends and family that I care about, that I wish would just eat "better" not perfect (no one eats perfect), or just try cooking their own food once in a while, etc. When they have a stroke, heart attack, get diabetes, etc at the age of 40 they'll wonder.....gee why did that happen to me?

You'll never eat perfect, but damn, do people even care?
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Old April 9th, 2013, 07:16 AM   #42
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Disclaimer; I agree with eating healthy and reducing chemicals.

With that said, all this talk about dieing younger, isn't our average life expectancy in the USA the highest it's ever been? And more cancer, or just more aware of cancer? Years ago alot of people died of consumption which was basically a no answer on what was really wrong.
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Disclaimer; I agree with eating healthy and reducing chemicals.

With that said, all this talk about dieing younger, isn't our average life expectancy in the USA the highest it's ever been? And more cancer, or just more aware of cancer? Years ago alot of people died of consumption which was basically a no answer on what was really wrong.
I agree, I'm not sure that we're dying younger as a country, and i think feva4u even said that 100% of people who eat organic healthfood their whole lives still die.....


I guess to me life is all about choices, we all make some good ones, we all make some bad ones.

When I eat, I try to just use the simple greater than or less than scenario.....which option is healthier? which option is easier? I always try to have the healtheir option outweigh the easier option.
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This.

Look at the average american though, they think it's ok to be a fatass because everyone else is too, who cares about the health ramifications......

Same with the food, actually half the americans don't even eat monsanto grown vegetables because they don't even consume vegetables.

They eat their food out of a box, add water, simmer for 15 minutes, eat.

Unpackage box, microwave.

Drive to window, order bag of grease.

Drive to restaurant, ask waitress whats the "healthy" option on menu....

I have friends and family that I care about, that I wish would just eat "better" not perfect (no one eats perfect), or just try cooking their own food once in a while, etc. When they have a stroke, heart attack, get diabetes, etc at the age of 40 they'll wonder.....gee why did that happen to me?

You'll never eat perfect, but damn, do people even care?
I've really taken to watching what people check out of the grocery story with lately. Its astounding how much pre packaged shit goes out the door. An even better comparison though is to watch at different stores. When we go to Walmart most people I see have a cart full of glorified junk food. When we go to Kroger you see a lot more fruits, veggies, and "healthier" boxed food riding down the conveyor.

Kerry and I used to be meal out of a box or bag kind of people. Now we eat the foods that come on the outside ring of the grocery store instead. While I'm still a fat ass(Kinda fixed food, fixing lazy is a whole different challenge) I feel a shit ton better.

A good movie to watch is Forks Over Knives...
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Not everyone is gonna be "skinny" but simply eating healthier, dropping a few lbs and giving a small damn can make you feel a shit ton better and add years to your life.
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I fit into both catagories. My wife has organic foods delivered to our door. My breakfast and dinners would be considered decent by most. My downfall is lunch and snacks and my sweet tooth. I need to get out of the building for lunch and tend to go wherever suits the day.

With that, I have eliminated 90% of soda from my daily routine. I have dropped about 5 pounds since the first of the year. Now I need to exercise more.

I think there are other factors into our health. In years past, at the end of the day a person went home to his/her family and did family stuff. Work was forgotten. In todays world, we have 24/7 access to work and work has 24/7 access to us. I've spent many a weekend & evening on the phone or doing emails. Stress goes up... the urge to snack goes up.... the urge to exercise goes down. It all plays into it.
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Not everyone is gonna be "skinny" but simply eating healthier, dropping a few lbs and giving a small damn can make you feel a shit ton better and add years to your life.
Who wants to live a long life in our society? I know many others are much worse but the political corruption makes my blood boil.
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I know many others are much worse but the political corruption makes my blood boil.
And it's that political corruption that has been telling us what we should be eating and what's good for us since our parents were children...

When you see guys leave a company like Monsanto at a fairly high level, then become a high ranking official in the FDA, then go back to Monsanto at an even higher level you really have to to

Everyone seems to willingly strap on the tin foil hat when we talk about how the government manipulates our guns, gas prices, health care, privacy, etc..., but somehow they forget about those apprehensions when following the FDA and crew's guidelines for healthy living.

On that note Food Inc. is another good movie to watch...
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If you're going to protest monsanto, business practices would be the place to start.

The thing about genetically modifying a living organism is that if you do it wrong, the organism dies- it doesn't become toxic unless you are taking genetic material from an organism that is toxic. That is currently illegal.


I read a LOT on this subject when people first started protesting- no one has yet found any instance of GMO being toxic.
well here it is the article you need to read about PROOF

http://www.infowars.com/new-gmo-stud...les-die-early/
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GMO foods are one issue but what about residual herbicides?

monsanto seeds are DESIGNED to resist herbicides that kill the weeds.

so, are the harvested crops that we consume containing more herbicides than before because more can be used on the field without killing the crop to be harvested?

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GMO foods are one issue but what about residual herbicides?

monsanto seeds are DESIGNED to resist herbicides that kill the weeds.

so, are the harvested crops that we consume containing more herbicides than before because more can be used on the field without killing the crop to be harvested?

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Great, the next thing you are going to tell me is that Bacon makes me fat
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I have lived in southern Oregon and northern California for over 4 years I know that organic seeds and crops are way more beneficial to my health than all this super highly processes pre packaged foods. its just another alternative choice to the main stream junk, all they want is your $ and they have no concern for your health
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GMO foods are one issue but what about residual herbicides?

monsanto seeds are DESIGNED to resist herbicides that kill the weeds.

so, are the harvested crops that we consume containing more herbicides than before because more can be used on the field without killing the crop to be harvested?

mr bueller, mr bueller, anyone?
Most crops that are field raised and "resistant" to herbicides are not directly consumed by humans. They are mostly used as a feed source for livestock or processed and used as an ingredient. Eaither way the herbicide is not inside the grain or fruit at time of harvest and any residual is washed away. Notice I say most. I would say all and now have questions for someone (not sure who to ask yet) in my company.
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Most crops that are field raised and "resistant" to herbicides are not directly consumed by humans. They are mostly used as a feed source for livestock or processed and used as an ingredient. Eaither way the herbicide is not inside the grain or fruit at time of harvest and any residual is washed away. Notice I say most. I would say all and now have questions for someone (not sure who to ask yet) in my company.
a lot of the animals eating this gmo food is being fed to ........ us. and used for suger and on and on
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