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Old April 8th, 2013, 10:01 PM   #21
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This would be a bad thing how?
That could be you or Kerry in that 50%.
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Old April 8th, 2013, 10:02 PM   #22
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and if you do care you can read this because SS dont know sheeit

http://www.globalresearch.ca/killer-...in-india/28629
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I will agree that Monsanto does some sketchy shit.

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You do realize that if it wasn't for the newer genetically modified crops of the last 30 years that half of the world population would be dead thanks to starvation?
I guess i dont see the problem with that?
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Old April 8th, 2013, 10:05 PM   #28
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I thought GM plants make cars, trucks, vans, and the like.
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I read it.

Nowhere does it state that the seeds or resulting crops are hazardous in any way.

What it does say is that the 'poor Indian farmers' were too ignorant to read the directions, and the crops failed to grow- causing many to go bankrupt and some to commit suicide for the embarrasment of failure.
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I worry about GMO's. It wouldn't be the first time that something that was thought to be save turned out not to be.

And I really hate some of Monsanto's business practices.
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I worry about GMO's. It wouldn't be the first time that something that was thought to be save turned out not to be.

And I really hate some of Monsanto's business practices.
If you're going to protest monsanto, business practices would be the place to start.

The thing about genetically modifying a living organism is that if you do it wrong, the organism dies- it doesn't become toxic unless you are taking genetic material from an organism that is toxic. That is currently illegal.


I read a LOT on this subject when people first started protesting- no one has yet found any instance of GMO being toxic.
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Fuck this. I'm going to bed.
Why do that when you can invest in corn seeds.
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I wish my prospects were as afraid of Monsanto as you guys. My life would be simple.
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Old April 8th, 2013, 11:37 PM   #34
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If you're going to protest monsanto, business practices would be the place to start.

The thing about genetically modifying a living organism is that if you do it wrong, the organism dies- it doesn't become toxic unless you are taking genetic material from an organism that is toxic. That is currently illegal.


I read a LOT on this subject when people first started protesting- no one has yet found any instance of GMO being toxic.
If something was so toxic that people we're falling over dead from it then yes, we'd know that pretty quickly, and it would probably be known about and never make it to market.

But what about the increase in food allergies and cancer? Are we sure that GMO's aren't causing that? Are we sure hat the next mutation they create won't cause something that might take many year to develop?
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Once i see people stop filling their shopping carts with soda, donuts and tv dinners ill start looking further into gm foods for causing all our health problems
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If something was so toxic that people we're falling over dead from it then yes, we'd know that pretty quickly, and it would probably be known about and never make it to market.

But what about the increase in food allergies and cancer? Are we sure that GMO's aren't causing that? Are we sure hat the next mutation they create won't cause something that might take many year to develop?
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Once i see people stop filling their shopping carts with soda, donuts and tv dinners ill start looking further into gm foods for causing all our health problems

toxicity does not mean you will drop over dead immediately.

A genetic mutation in the food supply does not equal genetic mutation in the creature eating it, or it's offspring. Genetic mutation results from the sexual reproduction of the animal or plant.

Think of it this way:

If you ate the meat from a two headed calf, that would not cause you to have two headed children.

No one who is protesting GMO has ever produced any- even circumstantial- evidence that consuming GMO causes damage to the consumer's genetic material. GMO foods have been around since the 90's, and while there have been spikes in certain birth defects, ADD and Autism come to mind, there's also a possible link to prescription drugs taken during pregnancy and childbirth.

The only study I've found that shows a side effect to GMO is from China, where scraps of modified rice DNA were found in the bloodstream of people who ate the rice. However, they have not found any direct evidence of harm.

http://www.theatlantic.com/health/ar...-foods/251051/

I chose to link the article from The Atlantic as it's not a mouthpiece of either side.
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I have to agree with tgmaul on most of this. Our nations food supply is incredible meesed up. It just starts with the seeds, then it is the bug control, then the animals they feed it to, then how they medically treat the animals, then how it is processed, packaged and delivered to your store. I am sure it has nothing to do with everyone getting cancer, obesity and starting to die at younger and younger ages.
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I have to agree with tgmaul on most of this. Our nations food supply is incredible meesed up. It just starts with the seeds, then it is the bug control, then the animals they feed it to, then how they medically treat the animals, then how it is processed, packaged and delivered to your store. I am sure it has nothing to do with everyone getting cancer, obesity and starting to die at younger and younger ages.
You've hit the nail on the head. There is far more screwing with our food supply than GMO.

It's just that Monsanto fits the mold of an evil corporation so well.....
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I have to agree with tgmaul on most of this. Our nations food supply is incredible meesed up. It just starts with the seeds, then it is the bug control, then the animals they feed it to, then how they medically treat the animals, then how it is processed, packaged and delivered to your store. I am sure it has nothing to do with everyone getting cancer, obesity and starting to die at younger and younger ages.
You is smart.

90-95% of cancer is environmental.

But lets blame our incredibly low health quality and high mortality rates on something like not having universal health care.

The past couple months my eyes have been opened to how fucked up our food is. The problem though is changing how you have been doing this fucked up process for your whole life is not an easy thing to do.
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GMO foods are one issue but what about residual herbicides?

monsanto seeds are DESIGNED to resist herbicides that kill the weeds.

so, are the harvested crops that we consume containing more herbicides than before because more can be used on the field without killing the crop to be harvested?

mr bueller, mr bueller, anyone?
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