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Old October 1st, 2013, 09:59 AM   #101
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I saw that at Gitchee Gumee last weekend. We had a mild JK four door in our group and although it got through everything it was a bit of a pain at times. I believe a four door JK is actually physically larger and heavier than my FSJ cherokee.
There were a few times I rubbed the top pretty good just because there was no other option. Mostly it was on the two bypasses that go around the river wash out.

I'd really like to see some of those guys that think their H1's are so bad ass tackle the trails we were going down last weekend.
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Old October 1st, 2013, 10:03 AM   #102
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I would have to break up with her either way, so your question is irrelevant.
I forgot you recently decided to pursue scottie instead. At least we both know scottie doesn't know anything about departure angles but he is a man of expertise on entry angles.
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Old October 1st, 2013, 10:31 AM   #103
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I forgot you recently decided to pursue scottie instead. At least we both know scottie doesn't know anything about departure angles but he is a man of expertise on entry angles.
If Scottie sits in my Jeep while wheeling, enjoys it enough to not complain about me buying parts for it, doesn't tell me what to build or how to drive it then I might keep him. That's just me. I am very happy for Route55 and his lover, I hope she gets his next rig build figured out soon!
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Old October 1st, 2013, 10:33 AM   #104
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I think an offroad ambulance would suit you well. Plus, if anyone got hurt, you could treat them on the spot.
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Old October 1st, 2013, 11:23 AM   #105
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If Scottie sits in my Jeep while wheeling, enjoys it enough to not complain about me buying parts for it, doesn't tell me what to build or how to drive it then I might keep him. That's just me. I am very happy for Route55 and his lover, I hope she gets his next rig build figured out soon!
Sounds like you have issues with women being in this hobby.
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Old October 1st, 2013, 11:29 AM   #106
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If Scottie sits in my Jeep while wheeling, enjoys it enough to not complain about me buying parts for it, doesn't tell me what to build or how to drive it then I might keep him. That's just me. I am very happy for Route55 and his lover, I hope she gets his next rig build figured out soon!
I agree, I tried to ride my bike with scottie on my handlebars but decided he would fit in your jeep better.
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Old October 1st, 2013, 11:51 AM   #107
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Sounds like you have issues with women being in this hobby.
Why would I have issues with that? No, I think it is great that women want to be in this hobby. Like I said, it would PROBABLY drive me nuts if my girl friend was telling me what rig she thought I needed, talking wheel base, departure angles, etc and I had to listen to her "wild ideas". Don't take it personally, unless you want to. I personally don't wheel to get girls, I wheel to have fun and get away. I hope some day I have a girl friend that enjoys wheeling, but I highly doubt I will be taking any technical advice from her, unless her name is Becky, then MAYBE I will listen, that's a big MAYBE. LOL.
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Why would I have issues with that? No, I think it is great that women want to be in this hobby. Like I said, it would PROBABLY drive me nuts if my girl friend was telling me what rig she thought I needed, talking wheel base, departure angles, etc and I had to listen to her "wild ideas". Don't take it personally, unless you want to. I personally don't wheel to get girls, I wheel to have fun and get away. I hope some day I have a girl friend that enjoys wheeling, but I highly doubt I will be taking any technical advice from her, unless her name is Becky, then MAYBE I will listen, that's a big MAYBE. LOL.
Lol, I gotcha. No butthurt here. It was just a hunch the way you were coming off. No biggie.

I get what you are saying. My ex-wife had no issue with what I spent $$ on usually. She had no interest in anything to do with my hobbies though.

I feel spoiled with the new girl. She encourages me to do the things I love, and some of those things she does too, which is awesome. Besides the occasional "that is cute/pretty" comment, she seems to be getting a great grasp on the serious and political aspects of this sport. I quite enjoy having someone to converse with. And there was near zero complaining on the trail, although she freaked a time or two when we were quite off-camber. Towards the end of the trip she knew which obstacles she wanted to ride though, and which ones she wanted to be camerawoman for.

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Yes, having a women who encourages you is a nice thing for sure!
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Green, are you hitting on Becky?
It depends on what her reaction is. I don't handle rejection well.
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Old October 1st, 2013, 03:12 PM   #112
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Old October 1st, 2013, 03:13 PM   #113
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My cousin Todd had one of those late 80's G30 that he beat the snot out of off road.

A G20 can be found for less then 5k in good condition. If you pull out the middle two seats and replace them with a second 3 passenger rear seat it will seat 8 comfortably with you and your wife in the captains seats up front.

I would look at a TBI or Vortec model with an overdrive transmission. Then find a second seat and sell the two middle ones. Install a 3" lift and some aggressive yet quiet tires and you have something that will take the entire family back into the woods for a picnic overlooking a mountain valley.

The wheelbase is 120ish and I am sure you could get creative with a bit of trimming by the wheels and different bumpers to give a bit more approach and departure angle.

The G20 is more plush and the G30 is more heavy duty "work truck" with a stiffer suspension. The G20 is a lot more common then the G30. If your planning on towing a camper behind you then leaving it on site to hit the trails a G30 may be four you.

Although you could also simply put air ride into a G20 for a nice interior that can haul stuff and raise the entire van for off road use.
Your pinion angle will go to hell if you raised it like that. But, your really not beating on it and I have heard about this nifty 80 degree joint they have out now.

Most modern air suspensions have 3 heights and changing to an air strut is almost as easy as pulling out the old and installing the new. There are many options you can go in the rear. I am cheap so cutting my springs behind the axle and installing a pan hard with the bushings taking the grunt of the side motion is what I have done in the past.

Here is a video I found via a quick google search of a G30. It would be a PITA to get in and mileage would suck. But, it would do everything else perfectly.
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Old October 1st, 2013, 04:58 PM   #115
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Have you seen the Rocks and Valleys Tour Rig. 7 seater could be 8 with some tweeks.
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Have you seen the Rocks and Valleys Tour Rig. 7 seater could be 8 with some tweeks.
No. Got a pic?
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My Mom was one of eight kids, and I asked her how they went places together. "Simple, we took two cars!

So how about two XJ's? Carry one set of spare parts and if either of you break, you got it! Put both on the same long trailer.

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My Mom was one of eight kids, and I asked her how they went places together. "Simple, we took two cars!

So how about two XJ's? Carry one set of spare parts and if either of you break, you got it! Put both on the same long trailer.

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Actually that makes alot of sense. Although I like a couple of Samurais would fit on a 22 foot trailer!
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And fate had its way with me. I was over at my buddy Dan's place, not far from me, and found a great running 84 Landcruiser Stick Shift a couple doors down. Seats 8, smaller than an FSJ, solid axles and power steering. Drove it home for $775!

Let the build begin!

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AWESOME! Easy to work on. Easy to lift (get old man emu). tough as nails. Easy to put a v8 in it, too.
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