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Old March 19th, 2013, 07:12 AM   #21
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If so many immigrant owned party stores are failing why are they still buying out american owned stores everyday?
One would think word would get out
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Old March 19th, 2013, 07:53 AM   #22
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I once robbed a gas station that some india folks ran, $1500 cash and several misc checks, and like 100 scratch off lottery tickets, found out they never reported anything stolen, just reported front door window was broke/vandlised. Always wondered about that. Heard rumors they sold guns and shit, so maybe they use store as a front and keep the rotation going for good measure.
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Old March 19th, 2013, 08:19 AM   #23
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People still think there is a 7 year tax free exemption for party store owners?



I can answer your question about the gas station turn over rate. It's because unless you own the refinery and the fuel trucks, there isn't much money to be made in running a gas station unless you have a high end convenience store. That is why there are so few independent stores left. Mobil gas stations and shell gas stations still have a few independent owners, but BP, Valero, Marathon, Speedway, etc are all corporate owned and operated.
There are still some lingering franchised/licensed service stations with many of the "all corporate owned operated" banner you reference. e.g. the BP at 14 & Farmington - the real estate is privately owned by the Barbat's of wireless toyz fame, and while BP technically operates the gasoline side of the business, the convenience store side of the equation is typically members of the extended barbat family running it.

As for the OP, I'm also guessing that in many of the gas stations you have visited that you never met the actual owner. Or, if you did, you may have met the owner of the 'business/franchise' - but not the real-estate, or vice versa. with the simplicity of setting up corporate entities these days, as well as the legal liability/downside of NOT doing so most of these places are multi-layered beyond belief in terms of ownership.

having been in the commercial and industrial appraisal industry for 2 decades I can tell you that finding verifiable gross/net sales information is all but impossible as well. if it's an independent you can sometimes get them to share the billing invoices for their wholesale gas to get an idea of gallons sold per month, but as kelly mentioned the margin on the actual gasoline is almost universally not sufficient to keep the business afloat - they pay the bills with receipts of convenience items such as ice, tobacco, lottery, snacks and soda. (or in the midwest during winter, $3.99 bottles of windshield washer solvent )
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Old March 19th, 2013, 08:37 AM   #24
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I once robbed a gas station that some india folks ran, $1500 cash and several misc checks, and like 100 scratch off lottery tickets, found out they never reported anything stolen, just reported front door window was broke/vandlised. Always wondered about that. Heard rumors they sold guns and shit, so maybe they use store as a front and keep the rotation going for good measure.
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I really hope this is a joke.
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Old March 19th, 2013, 08:43 AM   #25
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Old March 19th, 2013, 08:46 AM   #26
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Old March 19th, 2013, 12:48 PM   #27
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Well now you heard another side to the story
But you wanna know how it ends?
If you must know, the truth about the tale
Go and ask the milkman

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Old March 19th, 2013, 02:40 PM   #28
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I really hope this is a joke.
The truth. Spent 4 years locked up while other kids went to high school.
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Old March 19th, 2013, 03:54 PM   #29
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I really hope this is a joke.
Wow, Coyote Red is still a virgin.

Try these numbers on for size Coyote; 37% of all Americans have been arrested at least once. 22% have been convicted or plead guilty to at least one crime.

Place yourself in a room with nine other randomly chosen people and look at each one. Who are the three or maybe four criminals?

My belief is that roughly half of all Americans have done something worthy of arrest. Just because someone got arrested, does that mean they are any lesser than one who did not?

Many people keep secrets.
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Old March 19th, 2013, 05:44 PM   #30
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The truth. Spent 4 years locked up while other kids went to high school.
From what I have heard and seen around here you seem to have made better choices in your life since then.
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Wow, Coyote Red is still a virgin.

Try these numbers on for size Coyote; 37% of all Americans have been arrested at least once. 22% have been convicted or plead guilty to at least one crime.

Place yourself in a room with nine other randomly chosen people and look at each one. Who are the three or maybe four criminals?

My belief is that roughly half of all Americans have done something worthy of arrest. Just because someone got arrested, does that mean they are any lesser than one who did not?

Many people keep secrets.
DA fukc ????? I asked if it was true since this is the internet and you can't take things at face value. I am really not sure why you felt the need to post this? I never called mini beast out, said he was a low life, I never said anything bad about him ever. Does getting arrested mean you are any lesser of a person? Yes it does since you didn't follow the rules. How you handle that situation and your decisions after that will be what determine what kind of man you are. Not saying I have never broke the law, but I have never done anything worthy of a possible life sentence.
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Old March 19th, 2013, 06:06 PM   #31
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DA fukc ????? .
Hello Coyote:

Not sure what exactly that means. If you have taken offense at my statement, understand offense was not intended. I see that you did not rag on the open post about criminal behaviour.

Just questioning the truth in a mans statement such as it was, seems humorous to me.

My point is this, in case you did not understand: Many people are quick to judge others when they themselves are guilty of what they are judging another for. Some have not been "caught in the act" so they feel they are above the rest. LOL at that. Anyway there are far more citizens who are enjoying a "free" criminal record soley due to luck or funds to hire counsel than many folks realize.

Just because a man is the Pope doesn't mean he hasn't.......................
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Old March 19th, 2013, 08:16 PM   #32
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Well thanks. I'm a smart guy that had to grow up faster then should of. Chose to break the law to be locked up to get myself removed from an abusive step father. Had made some bad choices which I thought to be my only options as help wasn't seemily working. I would do it all over again in the same matter, it was those 4 yrs that made me who I am today, and this may be surprising to some, but I have always been open about it. Also in those life changing years it has led me to going to school, which was hard to do full time/ work and be a proud Daddy of two great girls. Have gotton off track with the schooling a bit but will be heading back to school come fall to finish my B.A. in Psychology. And the plan is for you all to be calling me Dr. MiNi Beast.
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Old March 19th, 2013, 08:42 PM   #33
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I am calling mini beast out, he is a low life
Well that's not very nice.
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Old March 20th, 2013, 12:51 AM   #34
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Old March 20th, 2013, 06:11 AM   #35
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Not sure what exactly that means. If you have taken offense at my statement, understand offense was not intended. I see that you did not rag on the open post about criminal behaviour.

Just questioning the truth in a mans statement such as it was, seems humorous to me.

My point is this, in case you did not understand: Many people are quick to judge others when they themselves are guilty of what they are judging another for. Some have not been "caught in the act" so they feel they are above the rest. LOL at that. Anyway there are far more citizens who are enjoying a "free" criminal record soley due to luck or funds to hire counsel than many folks realize.

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Wow, Coyote Red is still a virgin.

Try these numbers on for size Coyote; 37% of all Americans have been arrested at least once. 22% have been convicted or plead guilty to at least one crime.

Place yourself in a room with nine other randomly chosen people and look at each one. Who are the three or maybe four criminals?

My belief is that roughly half of all Americans have done something worthy of arrest. Just because someone got arrested, does that mean they are any lesser than one who did not?

Many people keep secrets.
The da fukc was directed at the statement you made in red. Still not sure how you felt that my question a statement makes me a virgin?
We are not allowed to question something someone post online? We are to accept everything posted as truth? A lot of outlandish things get posted in the pub, some are true, many others are just meant to wind people up over nothing.
Please show me when and where did I place judgment against mini beast?
Do you have an issue with me questioning someone's post? Asking if something is fact or fiction doesn't seem to warrant lengthy post about "XX% of people have done this". Rather it sounds like you are justifying poor choice made by saying well they did it so can't I.
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Old March 20th, 2013, 08:07 AM   #36
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Coyote Red. I know that reading comprehension can be tough so I will go slow and explain the direction of my original post.

You posted - "I really hope this is a joke" in response for Mini Beast's post- - - I responded with the virgin remark. That reference is to what I see as a virginesque view of this world we live in. To expand on the idea of the world we live in I point out that there are many, no good slugs that appear to be good citizens when in truth they have done things to be considered slugs. Things are seldom as lilly white as ya might think.

I did not accuse you of judging anyone.

My words - "My belief is that roughly half of all Americans have done something worthy of arrest. Just because someone got arrested, does that mean they are any lesser than one who did not?" - - - Your words "Does getting arrested mean you are any lesser of a person? Yes it does since you didn't follow the rules." Could you explain further how that being caught for an infraction makes the person lesser than those who did not get caught but are just as guilty?


* * * * * Attention for all to see * * * * * * * * the following statement.

Coyote Red, please accept my apology to you for saying you are still a virgin.

Have a nice day!
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Old March 20th, 2013, 08:39 AM   #38
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Old March 20th, 2013, 09:37 AM   #39
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Coyote Red. I know that reading comprehension can be tough so I will go slow and explain the direction of my original post.

You posted - "I really hope this is a joke" in response for Mini Beast's post- - - I responded with the virgin remark. That reference is to what I see as a virginesque view of this world we live in. To expand on the idea of the world we live in I point out that there are many, no good slugs that appear to be good citizens when in truth they have done things to be considered slugs. Things are seldom as lilly white as ya might think.

I did not accuse you of judging anyone.

My words - "My belief is that roughly half of all Americans have done something worthy of arrest. Just because someone got arrested, does that mean they are any lesser than one who did not?" - - - Your words "Does getting arrested mean you are any lesser of a person? Yes it does since you didn't follow the rules." Could you explain further how that being caught for an infraction makes the person lesser than those who did not get caught but are just as guilty?


* * * * * Attention for all to see * * * * * * * * the following statement.

Coyote Red, please accept my apology to you for saying you are still a virgin.

Have a nice day!
I see how the virgin comment fits into the statements made now. I thought you were, for some unknown reason, dragging sexual activity into this thread. I interpreted your use of the word virgin differently than you intend it. My previous red quote has been cleared up now.

My green quote has been cleared up as well now.

My questioning of mini beast was that, from what I can gather, he is an intelligent guy that have people speak highly of him. I hoped this was a joke as to choices like that hindering his ability to move on and turn his life around. From what he posted in response to my question he has made the turn around and is moving forward to better himself.
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Old March 20th, 2013, 09:56 AM   #40
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