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Old March 15th, 2013, 04:36 PM   #1
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So my family (2 uncles and grandpa) and I are going to be building a new cabin at camp this year. We have a 40ft trailer with a 12x12 addition on it now, but it's getting too small for all of us and it was never meant to be permanent. The problem is none of us can agree on how it should be laid out. So, I decided to call on gl4x4 for some outside input as far as the best ways to have it laid out for drainage, ventilation and aesthetics purposes.

I would like the kitchen put in the corner of the room, as seen in the plan in the middle and far right in the attached picture, I think it would look like and would create a nice "open" area effect that would make the whole room seem bigger. I also do not like the idea of having 4 entrances (both bedrooms, bathroom, and kitchen) trying to occupy the same space as seen in the left layout. I think that is just going to create a congested area. Does either layout have advantages over the other for support purposes?

And what about a bathroom? there isn't power or running water, but we do plan on running electrical for power at a later date (years down the road), and there will only be a hand pump for water in the kitchen. Personally I don't see why a bathroom is needed as there is a very nice heated outhouse that we use now. If really need be my grandpas house is only a 10-15 minute drive away.

So, please throw in your input ideas, i'd like to hear some other points of view

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Old March 15th, 2013, 04:54 PM   #2
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Grandpa's getting older, so is dad. Put in a bathroom.
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hook it to a septic field. we used a big drum of water in the tub to flush at camp for years.
never had running water or electric. add a few ounces of pink in the drain when u leave.

wire it for 12 volt power like an rv, with a charger convertor. charge the batterys off a honda generator. i do it all summer at my campsite. i only need my genny to charge a couple hours a day, and im full power all year. wire my snowmobile trailer the same way. burned about 20 gallons of gas last season, and i ran my ac a fair amount.
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Bigger pic, but what I can see on my phone I like middle one best.
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hook it to a septic field. we used a big drum of water in the tub to flush at camp for years.
never had running water or electric. add a few ounces of pink in the drain when u leave.

wire it for 12 volt power like an rv, with a charger convertor. charge the batterys off a honda generator. i do it all summer at my campsite. i only need my genny to charge a couple hours a day, and im full power all year. wire my snowmobile trailer the same way. burned about 20 gallons of gas last season, and i ran my ac a fair amount.
Never thought of wiring it for 12 volt. We uesd to have a 5,000 watt generator hooked up in the old camp, but we stopped using it because it was so loud. Our neighbor could hear it running lol (about 1/4 mile away through woods).

The problem with a spetic field is there really isn't a whole lot of room to put one. Although, I am really not 100% sure how to set up one so maybe that's my problem lol
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two 55 gallon drums. 4 inch pipe connecting them. 4inch pipe out of "drum a" coming out the side near the bottom. pipe enters "drum b" in the side near the top. shoot about 200 holes through "drum b" all in the lower half. burry in deep sand standing upright and back fill. pipe from house enters "drum a" at the very top.
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I would put the wood stove right in the middle of your plan b, the middle one with a bathroom. That way the heat does not have to move as far to get some heat into the back bedrooms. Wire it for 12v, but if you are planning on getting electrical to it in the future, pre-wire it, or just run everything in conduit to make life a lot easier. I think that having a pisser in the house would be nice, with the heated out-house.
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two 55 gallon drums. 4 inch pipe connecting them. 4inch pipe out of "drum a" coming out the side near the bottom. pipe enters "drum b" in the side near the top. shoot about 200 holes through "drum b" all in the lower half. burry in deep sand standing upright and back fill. pipe from house enters "drum a" at the very top.
Sounds easy to do, you just bury both of them in the ground? If you go more than a few feet down it all fills in with water. The camp is basically right in the middle of ceder swamp on a high ridge.


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I would put the wood stove right in the middle of your plan b, the middle one with a bathroom. That way the heat does not have to move as far to get some heat into the back bedrooms. Wire it for 12v, but if you are planning on getting electrical to it in the future, pre-wire it, or just run everything in conduit to make life a lot easier. I think that having a pisser in the house would be nice, with the heated out-house.
We thought about that as well, but we all wanted to have one nice open great room, so to speak, without something right in the middle of the camp. I didn't show it but there will be another lp heater on the opposite side of the living/dining room to help heat the area and keep it warm.
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hell pipe it out into the swamp then.
you could also buy a marine toilet for emergencys.
try a funell out the side of the wall onto the ground for numbr 1's

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Could someone elaborate on how to set up for 12 volt? The interwebz isn't very helpfull on the topic, basically you can wire it the same you would for regular ac, but how would/ what is the best way to hook it up to either a generator or batteries. I'm leaning towards hooking up 3/4 deep cycle batteries and running the camp off them, then using a generator to charge them. Or even generator/solar panels depending on price.

The most we'd be running is lights. I don't anticipate getting a fridge, unless it an lp one. And we wouldn't be running coffee pots; maybe down the road we'd have a tv set up with satellite.
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Depending on where you are building will determin what you have to do. I've seen zoning rules in places I never thought would require something. If you build it and it doesn't comply, you could end up with a real expensive project.

Always plumb and always run electric, even if it is not required. It's a lot easier to install during the rough than to add later.
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