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Old March 14th, 2013, 06:50 PM   #1
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got a couple cages to do coming up and me and a friend are thinking of buying a pipe/tube notcher. just dont know what is any good since i cant find any reviews.

thinking of this woodward fab unit WFN6. http://www.woodwardfab.com/woodward_...ube_bender.htm

anyone have this and is it any good?
i know harbor freight makes one also but i havent had much luck with there tools cause u get what u pay for.

anyone know of a better notcher for the money like under $300
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Old March 14th, 2013, 06:54 PM   #2
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I have the JD2 TN-100. Works great. Only thing I don't like is that you can't put a notch in a bend, you have to be a couple inches away.
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i got a tn100 used and it has works great but i will be buying a notchmaster. both are made by jd2
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thanks guys ill go with the notchmaster. i did a search on this site also and didnt show up. wierd sorry to be the guy to the same thing. but thanks for link and info glad i asked
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Woodward fab notcher. There office is at 23&59 in Hartland
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got a couple cages to do coming up and me and a friend are thinking of buying a pipe/tube notcher. just dont know what is any good since i cant find any reviews.

thinking of this woodward fab unit WFN6. http://www.woodwardfab.com/woodward_...ube_bender.htm

anyone have this and is it any good?
i know harbor freight makes one also but i havent had much luck with there tools cause u get what u pay for.

anyone know of a better notcher for the money like under $300
I use the harbor frieght, it needs a little modification out of the box, but for the price it works.


That $80 one in your link looks identical to the HF unit.
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I'm a cheap ass, so I use math and a chop saw that can cut up to about 60 degrees.
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Woodward fab notcher. There office is at 23&59 in Hartland
Do you have the woodward fab version?
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i ended up buying the jd squared notcher cause everyone on here seemed to like it best. havent used it yet but it very hd built.
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I'm a cheap ass, so I use math and a chop saw that can cut up to about 60 degrees.

x2 I use my angle grinder with a cutoff wheel to put a V notch in it. Then a flap disc to round it out, works great. Takes about 3-4 minutes per notch.

I have a link on my other computer that you enter the tube diameter and the angle of the intersection and it prints off a template. Tape it on the tube and grind to the line on the template and its a perfect fit. I printed off all the common angles and keep them on hand in the garage.
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Yes and its badass . I got a display from a show for 100 off
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x2 I use my angle grinder with a cutoff wheel to put a V notch in it. Then a flap disc to round it out, works great.
I can almost any joint with a max of 6 cuts with a chop saw and very limited grinding.
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I can almost any joint with a max of 6 cuts with a chop saw and very limited grinding.
if you only do a tube here or there I can see going this route. But I can't imagine doing a cage without one. Too much wasted time. Heck, I hate how long it takes to take an extra 1/4" off a notch, let alone have to redo 6 cuts and grinding every time.
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x2 I use my angle grinder with a cutoff wheel to put a V notch in it. Then a flap disc to round it out, works great. Takes about 3-4 minutes per notch.

I have a link on my other computer that you enter the tube diameter and the angle of the intersection and it prints off a template. Tape it on the tube and grind to the line on the template and its a perfect fit. I printed off all the common angles and keep them on hand in the garage.
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Heck, I hate how long it takes to take an extra 1/4" off a notch, let alone have to redo 6 cuts and grinding every time.
how long dies it take you to do 6 cuts on a chop saw? I bet it is faster than you think... and you only have to change the angle of the chop 3 times. I will post pictures of my joints tonight...
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i use to do the v notch and then use grinder to make a nice round tube end but it does take a couple min per notch. i have done 3 cages in last year and several bumpers and rock sliders. for the price of the notcher and the fact its build nice and will prob last a lifetime i cant see going back to using grinder to do it ever again.
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how long dies it take you to do 6 cuts on a chop saw? I bet it is faster than you think... and you only have to change the angle of the chop 3 times. I will post pictures of my joints tonight...
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Google pipemaster. After you get past the surfing shit, its a scribing tool. I haven't used one, but id try it out.
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A friend has the 1.75 tube Pipemaster that I borrowed while we did the last rebuild on the TJ. It is helpful for some oddball notches, but in building the entire jeep I think we used it maybe 5 times. As the angle gets steeper I found it to become less accurate; which was generally the notches I wanted to use it on.

For instance, I used it on the door bars of the jeep that were at near 60* angles and at an odd intersection -- seemingly perfect. With how it sits over the tube, it was about a 1/4" bigger than the tube I was notching. After a few attempts of trying to get it to work right, I finally just used it as a start point and did the rest of the fitting with a grinder.

Maybe you could use a 1.5 pipe master for notching 1.75 tube and it would work in the high angle situations, but for the money they want for it, I dunno if it's truly worth it.

I agree that if you are doing more than adding a bar into something here or there, a notcher is worth the money.
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here are some of the joints that have little to no grinding.

Basically with 2" OD tube, to get a 90 degree joint, you set the chop saw at 30 deg and cut the tube so it makes a "C" to accept the joint (2 cuts 90 degrees to each other).
for 80 degree degree joint, you do a 35deg and 25 degree cut
at about 70 or 65 degrees, you have to start doing 3 cuts. I don't remember the angles, but the sample picture I took was a 65 deg joint and I think it used a 30 deg cut, 90 deg cut and 45 degree trim cut (just a little off the back of the joint for clearance). so 3 cuts per end of the tube, then flip it over and start whatever joint you need at the other end.

This was a 85 degree joint, I think the cuts were 33 deg and 27 deg or so. No grinding


this was around 80 deg


this has a 90 degree joint on the left (simple) and a 75 ish degree on the right that took 3 cuts for clearance.


here is a 65 degree 3 cut joint, not installed yet


For sure a tube notcher is a great tool, I am just trying to point out that you don't 100% need it for good, fast joints, unless you are doing this day in and day out.
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