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Old March 8th, 2013, 01:29 PM   #21
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the sap from the pine is the secret though. it re-coats all the bands.
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Trans medic always fixed hard seals and slow shift issues
It pours like water and will not ruin it like saw dust

If it's something else it won't make it any worse
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Old March 8th, 2013, 01:37 PM   #23
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Dont listen to this guy he is dumb,

Do the saw dust trick i found that chain saw shavings from a oak tree works the best as pine is to soft
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Before you try any of these bullshit fixes, please figure out what trans it is and report back. I can try and help you figure out the actual problem and probably fix it so it will last the race. Is it shifting through all gears? Taking off in first? Taking off in a higher gear? Ect.
I'll get a pic for you tonight. I only drove it about 150 yards so far so my details are minimal till it's unloaded tonight. Got it from dline on here and have dealt with him before so trust his assessment. It's been daily driven the way it is now, goes through the gears, but shutters at higher speeds when getting into the throttle. Loading it onto the trailer it didn't want to move at idle, but would take off fairly suddenly once the RPMs got up a bit more. Like I said, it felt like there was a stall converter in it. I'll take pics later, go for a drive, and give more detail.

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Do the saw dust trick i found that chain saw shavings from a oak tree works the best as pine is to soft
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Old March 10th, 2013, 11:48 AM   #25
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Is the fluid level low?

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Count the pan bolts to ID the transmission...

14 pan bolts = AOD
16 pan bolts = AODE or 4R70W
17 pan bolts = C6
18 pan bolts = A4LD
20 pan bolts = E4OD
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After a test drive it's been decided to not even mess with it. It goes great in first and second, but feels pretty nasty and slips and shudders like crazy at higher gears/speeds. The first 2 gears should be all that's needed for its intended purpose, so gonna leave it alone and not risk making it worse.
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I'd like someone to explain how sawdust cures pump, band, or clutch issues. Please explain the full process using all the big, technical words that you feel neccessary to explain the process, don't worry, I'll understand. My thought's: This process is utter bullshit and can not be verified.

The brake fluid fix: There is some validity to this "trick". The materials used to seal various components in the transmission do not like brake fluid. The brake fluid pisses off the sealing material causing it to slightly swell therefore potentially inproving the seal of the component that is having issues.
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I was wondering this same thing???:banghead:
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I'd like someone to explain how sawdust cures pump, band, or clutch issues. Please explain the full process using all the big, technical words that you feel neccessary to explain the process, don't worry, I'll understand. My thought's: This process is utter bullshit and can not be verified.

The brake fluid fix: There is some validity to this "trick". The materials used to seal various components in the transmission do not like brake fluid. The brake fluid pisses off the sealing material causing it to slightly swell therefore potentially inproving the seal of the component that is having issues.
It works the same way, by tightening clearances. Plus it not just any sawdust, its oak although I have had some luck with walnut. So before you go getting all Mr. Smartypants give it a try.
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It works the same way, by tightening clearances. Plus it not just any sawdust, its oak although I have had some luck with walnut. So before you go getting all Mr. Smartypants give it a try.
Bingo.

All I know is that the Excursion we used that trick on didn't move an inch because the trans slipped so bad. We added the saw dust and it was doing burn outs in the parking lot for about a hour before all the chunks clogged up the valve body.
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It works the same way, by tightening clearances. Plus it not just any sawdust, its oak although I have had some luck with walnut. So before you go getting all Mr. Smartypants give it a try.
I'd like to see how sawdust could even get past the filter in an automatic transmission. must be some special dust to get around the filter and into the internal components of the transmission. whatever jackass even thought of that should be smacked for trying to spread mis-information that could cause even more destruction in a transmission.
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I'd like to see how sawdust could even get past the filter in an automatic transmission. must be some special dust to get around the filter and into the internal components of the transmission. whatever jackass even thought of that should be smacked for trying to spread mis-information that could cause even more destruction in a transmission.
No shit it causes more damage. No one is saying its a quick fix for the long term.

How is it misinformation if the truck didn't move... saw dust was added... the truck moved?
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It's JF all over again
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I'd like to see how sawdust could even get past the filter in an automatic transmission. must be some special dust to get around the filter and into the internal components of the transmission. whatever jackass even thought of that should be smacked for trying to spread mis-information that could cause even more destruction in a transmission.
How are rainbows made? Why's the sky blue? How does a posi trac rear end in a plymouth work? It just does.
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My guess is that besides blocking passages and sealing seals, it could also *potentially* have enough grit in it to add miniscule amounts of friction back in to where it has been lost from worn out components. In new/working form a trans should have friction elements and the fluid acts as a lubricant. In a worn out trans the friction materials in some area or another are gone, so grit is added to the fluid to help these worn out places grab better. Granted, I've never tried it and for every 1 story of it working there are probably 10 of it failing, but its an interesting idea. This is pure specultion on my part, but I can see how it *could* work as a very short term "fix"
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My guess is that besides blocking passages and sealing seals, it could also *potentially* have enough grit in it to add miniscule amounts of friction back in to where it has been lost from worn out components. In new/working form a trans should have friction elements and the fluid acts as a lubricant. In a worn out trans the friction materials in some area or another are gone, so grit is added to the fluid to help these worn out places grab better. Granted, I've never tried it and for every 1 story of it working there are probably 10 of it failing, but its an interesting idea. This is pure specultion on my part, but I can see how it *could* work as a very short term "fix"
well then try saw dust after said weekend and report back the results
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well then try saw dust after said weekend and report back the results
Exactly.

I can only testify to what I have experienced personally and if saw dust allowed a stripped out transmission connected to a 7.3L Powerstroke to do burn outs in a parking lot it's a pretty good indicator that it works as a short term solution.

If you've never tried it and scoff at the idea of it working simply because it sounds absurd...

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It works the same way, by tightening clearances. Plus it not just any sawdust, its oak although I have had some luck with walnut. So before you go getting all Mr. Smartypants give it a try.
So what is the mechanism that causes the swelling of the seals? How does the sawdust get past the filter so it can effect said seals? What keeps the filter from getting plugged? If the sawdust gets past the filter, how does it keep from plugging up small orfices, channels, and checkballs?

As far as trying it, I currently don't have any questionable transmissions I wish to sacrafice. Please feel free to give me a live demonstration to prove the validity of your statement. I have no problem with being proven wrong and will be happy to concede to your superior knowlege of backwoods ways to fix things.
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Rainbows: Sunlight flowing through falling droplets of rainwater is seperated into it's visible spectrum elements due to the prisim effect of water, ergo polychromatic light is reduced to monochromatic light.

Why is the sky blue?: Sorta like the same effect as above. Molecules of air tend to scatter the blue component of polychromatic light (white light) farther than other components of the visible spectrum. More blue light reaching the eye means the sky appears blue.

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