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Old March 6th, 2013, 08:50 AM   #1
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My truck has 45k miles on it. Original Tires, Original Shocks, both need replacing.

I am going to add a 2" leveling kit (From Dale at Ironman) to the front end when I order tires/shocks.

Tires I am considering are:
Goodyear Wrangler Silent Armor
Goodyear Duratrac
BFG All Terrain (the old stand by?)

I am kind of at a toss up, the SA will last forever, be nice and quiet, ride nice, etc. The downside is that they don't look very aggressive. I don't "need" a super aggressive tire, but I do spend a fair amount of time on logging roads/mountain roads that can be either muddy (not deep mud per say) or pretty rocky (i'd like to avoid cuts/flats here), so I want a tire that can hold up to some abuse. I guess thats where the duratrac comes in. I like the level of aggresiveness of the bfg all terrain, and they have proven pretty tough over the years, but I have to imagine something out there is better these days?

The duratrac seems a bit more aggressive than the BFG AT with out going to a full on mud tire, which I think is overkill for the amount of back roads I'll be traveling, plus I don't really want to deal with the choppiness and noise on a DD.

How are the Duratracs wearing compared to something like the silent armor (which is what my friend at the tire store says I should get, says the hosejockey is running them on all his trucks)



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I would like to buy something decent here, OEM is ok, but what other reasonable options are out there that people have had good luck with? Back in the day it was all about the Rancho shocks....

I don't tow heavy loads often, but I do long road trips with moderate loads, my shocks are fairly well warn, or not stiff enough for my likings.
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Just curious, but how are you determining that your shocks need to be replaced already?
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I did a scientific experiment.....


Or, I drove my truck down the road and determined that in comparison to my other silverado's my truck could use a new set of shocks to dampen the suspension movement better......

Is there a better way that you'd like to share with me?

I want to put new shocks on the truck, it feels as if it could use them, need I explain further?

I'm not really looking for opinions on if my shocks need to be replaced, I am looking for opinions on what shocks are better than the OEM one's and come at a reasonable cost.

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I did a scientific experiment.....


Or, I drove my truck down the road and determined that in comparison to my other silverado's my truck could use a new set of shocks to dampen the suspension movement better......

Is there a better way that you'd like to share with me?

I want to put new shocks on the truck, it feels as if it could use them, need I explain further?
Settle down Nancy.

1. Jounce each corner of the truck. If it takes more than 1.5 cycles of the suspension to come to a rest, you need new shocks.

2. Check the shocks for any fluid leaks, if there is heavy amounts of fluid, you need new shocks. A light misting of fluid on the top of the shock under the dust cover is ok.

3. Check the your tire treads for any signs of cupping. This would indicate your shocks are bad.

At 45,000 miles, I can't imagine why your shocks would be bad. If you want to replace them with something better, so be it.
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Old March 6th, 2013, 09:08 AM   #5
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Settle down Nancy.

1. Jounce each corner of the truck. If it takes more than 1.5 cycles of the suspension to come to a rest, you need new shocks.

2. Check the shocks for any fluid leaks, if there is heavy amounts of fluid, you need new shocks. A light misting of fluid on the top of the shock under the dust cover is ok.

3. Check the your tire treads for any signs of cupping. This would indicate your shocks are bad.

At 45,000 miles, I can't imagine why your shocks would be bad. If you want to replace them with something better, so be it.
Thanks, couldn't have done it with out you. I had no idea that the extra bouncing my truck was doing could have been from worn shocks. Or that if they were leaking it might be bad. Or the fact that my front tires are starting to get pretty choppy was any indication of a poor alignment or possibly worn out shock absorbers.


I feel a lot better now.

Back on track, does anyone, who has some actual experience on any of the questions asked have any suggestions to offer as far as a nice shock and or tire?
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Thanks, couldn't have done it with out you. I had no idea that the extra bouncing my truck was doing could have been from worn shocks. Or that if they were leaking it might be bad. Or the fact that my front tires are starting to get pretty choppy was any indication of a poor alignment or possibly worn out shock absorbers.


I feel a lot better now.

Back on track, does anyone, who has some actual experience on any of the questions asked have any suggestions to offer as far as a nice shock and or tire?
Just trying to help. My apologies that I forgot you are the know it all prick of the century.
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I appreciate your help. You have succesfully provided nothing useful to this thread. Thank you for your worldly automotive experience.
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I've been happy with Monroe Reflex shocks as OEM replacements. I paid $160 for 4 for my 2500HD. They are monotube shocks and tamed Fenton and Clyde roads much better than the stockers. They were about half the cost of the Bilsteins.

I finally jumped off the A/T band wagon on my truck and bought some Michelin LTX's and I couldn't be happier.

edit: as far as my test method for determining shocks. I drive on Fenton Rd and cross Hibner Rd going north and south. If my truck catches air on the climbs at 50mph then my shocks are toast. I believe this is SAE J-2832985 spec.
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This help then?

IMO, go with the SAs. The other choices will help in some of the terrain situations you mentioned...obviously. However, there is no reason the SAs would get by just as well. A more aggressive tread will mean worse gas mileage on the road, which sounds like is the majority of what you're driving on.

As far as shocks, you can't go wrong with Bilstein or KYB. Monroe is decent for the money. Not sure on how much you want to spend. If your OEMs didn't last 45,000 miles, probably wouldn't want to go that route again.

If you already knew all of this (which I'm sure you did), my sincerest apologies.
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try these, greasey might agree the name fits

http://www.doetsch-shocks.com/3.asp
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I've been happy with Monroe Reflex shocks as OEM replacements. I paid $160 for 4 for my 2500HD. They are monotube shocks and tamed Fenton and Clyde roads much better than the stockers. They were about half the cost of the Bilsteins.

I finally jumped off the A/T band wagon on my truck and bought some Michelin LTX's and I couldn't be happier.

edit: as far as my test method for determining shocks. I drive on Fenton Rd and cross Hibner Rd going north and south. If my truck catches air on the climbs at 50mph then my shocks are toast. I believe this is SAE J-2832985 spec.
Fenton road is exactly where I decided it was about time for some new shocks recently. I do the same test but I set the cruise at 60 mph and head north from m59 all the way to white lake road. Hibner, the hill just south of holforth, the dip just south of germany, the 2 miles of patched road from germany north.....its time for new and/or BETTER (happy douchemonkey?) shocks

I will check out the suggestions.

How are you liking those tires for the occasional fire wood collecting, camping, fishing, trailhead muddy parking lot type of performance? Any fear of jagged mountain/logging road rocks?
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try these, greasey might agree the name fits

http://www.doetsch-shocks.com/3.asp
doetsch shocks used to come with RE suspension kits right? They seemed to turn to junk pretty quick on the two jeeps I lifted and had those on, have they gotten any better?

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This help then?

IMO, go with the SAs. The other choices will help in some of the terrain situations you mentioned...obviously. However, there is no reason the SAs would get by just as well. A more aggressive tread will mean worse gas mileage on the road, which sounds like is the majority of what you're driving on.

As far as shocks, you can't go wrong with Bilstein or KYB. Monroe is decent for the money. Not sure on how much you want to spend. If your OEMs didn't last 45,000 miles, probably wouldn't want to go that route again.

If you already knew all of this (which I'm sure you did), my sincerest apologies.
Thanks that was helpful.....Are those the shocks you're running on your truck?
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Thanks that was helpful.....Are those the shocks you're running on your truck?
I'm SO sorry! I didn't know I needed to specifically own a Chevy Silverado to provide you with insight on what brand shocks are a good choice!

I thought my years of repairing vehicles and actually replacing shocks would be sufficient enough to provide your all knowing prickish self with some insight, but damn I guess I was wrong. When I had my '01 Ram, I did go through a few different brands of shocks before I settled on ones I like, but it's not a Silverado so it's null and void. Silverados have specific shock requirements that do not exist on other vehicles.
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I'm SO sorry! I didn't know I needed to specifically own a Chevy Silverado to provide you with insight on what brand shocks are a good choice!

I thought my years of repairing vehicles and actually replacing shocks would be sufficient enough to provide your all knowing prickish self with some insight, but damn I guess I was wrong. When I had my '01 Ram, I did go through a few different brands of shocks before I settled on ones I like, but it's not a Silverado so it's null and void. Silverados have specific shock requirements that do not exist on other vehicles.
Why so butthurt? Your post was useless....just let it go....
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Fenton road is exactly where I decided it was about time for some new shocks recently. I do the same test but I set the cruise at 60 mph and head north from m59 all the way to white lake road. Hibner, the hill just south of holforth, the dip just south of germany, the 2 miles of patched road from germany north.....its time for new and/or BETTER (happy douchemonkey?) shocks

I will check out the suggestions.

How are you liking those tires for the occasional fire wood collecting, camping, fishing, trailhead muddy parking lot type of performance? Any fear of jagged mountain/logging road rocks?
doetsch shocks used to come with RE suspension kits right? They seemed to turn to junk pretty quick on the two jeeps I lifted and had those on, have they gotten any better?
I was relieved at how they did recently getting my trailer out of the barn. In spring (or winter these days with the constant freeze/thaw cycles) it's a soupy mess at the entrance of my barn and I've gotten my truck stuck before to the point of having to winch it out with the jeep. (once on BFG A/Ts and once on stock tires)

I kept the wheelspeed down and I was able to get through even with tires sinking about 6" into the slop. Similar thing happened when dropping my trailer at WhiteRhino's shop before KOH. So they are decent. I'm not saying they are great at it, but it hasn't broken its end of the bargain.

It's done minimial two tracking without issues, and I've been through a few bad junkyard parking lots that I was worried about picking up debris and so far, so good.
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I was relieved at how they did recently getting my trailer out of the barn. In spring (or winter these days with the constant freeze/thaw cycles) it's a soupy mess at the entrance of my barn and I've gotten my truck stuck before to the point of having to winch it out with the jeep. (once on BFG A/Ts and once on stock tires)

I kept the wheelspeed down and I was able to get through even with tires sinking about 6" into the slop. Similar thing happened when dropping my trailer at WhiteRhino's shop before KOH. So they are decent. I'm not saying they are great at it, but it hasn't broken its end of the bargain.

It's done minimial two tracking without issues, and I've been through a few bad junkyard parking lots that I was worried about picking up debris and so far, so good.
Good stuff, I will throw them into the mix of tires to get pricing on. They'll see a lot of unimproved parking lots/roads/two tracks throughout the year.
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Why so butthurt? Your post was useless....just let it go....
Just curious why you ask for advice and help here when you already clearly know it all.
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I just put a set of Duratracs on my truck and I like them a whole lot more than the Coopers that were on them and the BFG A/Ts on my truck. The tires have about 1000 miles on them so I cannot say much about the wear of the Duratracs but I can say that they hook up great in mud and snow. And when they do not hook up they move a lot of material until they do!

Also I put the cheapo shocks from Autozone on my chevy half ton and they were actually surprisingly nice. That is all I have for this topic.
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If you're open to suggestions on the tires, I just put a set of Falken Rocky Mounain AT's on the SuperDuty and I must say they are a pretty aggressive all terrain. They were significantly cheaper then the BFG's. Can't really say how they wear yet, only have about 2,000 miles on them.
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