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Old March 3rd, 2013, 03:49 PM   #1
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i have a lot of work for at least the next few years coming up out of state. the girlfriend and i have talked about it and we want to volunteer for all the out of state work we get. my company truck will get driven or shipped to me when i get to a job so i will have a way to get to and from the jobsite. the things i want to be able to take with me are my buggy (once it is finished), motorcycle and a way of transportation for jill while i am working.

the 2 options i am thinking of are

1- buy a truck, big 5th wheel camper and an enclosed trailer to haul the bike and buggy.

2-buy a motorhome and pull an enclosed trailer with buggy, bike and a very small car.

i dont know what would be the better option considering weight, length and comfort. we will throw my budget out there at 60k give or take. doing this i will make 2-3 times as much money as i will working at home and it will give us an opportunity to see the country and wheel alot of cool places. the majority of the jobs will be in central california, dallas texas, buttfuck ohio, southern arizona and north east colorado.

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Nice motor home with a trailer if it was me
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I have owned all of those versions. For your application, IMO I would go with the motorhome/enclosed. However with your budget I would be looking at a greyhound bus conversion. You get a diesel, more room, better mileage, and bays to store things. All in a package made to go 2 million miles. A very nice conversion can be bought for 15-25k, well below your budget.
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Not sure about other states but Michigan has uped the length of pulling recreational doubles from 65' to 75'. I built a trailer to haul my Toyota behind my 5th wheel that being said. Any trailer with a 3500 lb gross needs to have brakes on all axles (I have electric on 5th wheel and surge brakes on yota trailer) also the rear trailer can not weigh more then the tow rig but must weigh less then the 5th wheel. You are also going to want to run some sort of weight distribution hitch between the 5th wheel and the back trailer. I had an issue with pulling both because once the yota was loaded the tounge weight of said trailer pulled weight out of the back of my truck witch caused the 2 trailer to sway way more then I liked.

Here is a pic of my set up hope this info might be of some help.

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I love my motorhome. Hauling a big enclosed behind a gasser motorhome can be tough in the mountains.
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large truck camper, and enclosed trailer. you can drop the truck camper, and she can drive the pickup. my wife used my truck and truck camper without me quite a few times. she was not scared to drive it, cause it did not have a trailer. one less thing to tow without needing another toad for her to use. much smaller package to haul around. lighter weight, cheaper insurance, easier to move around. the high end larger tc's with slides are amazing inside.
hauling a buggy, bike, and small car inside and enclosed trailer behind a motorhome is not an option behind "most" motorhomes. that is too much trailer weight for all but a top dollar diesel pushers. "most" motorhomes are rated to tow 3500 to 7500 lbs. your trailer weight will be well in excess of 10k lbs.

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motorhome. i actually found a few nice deals on some 35ft diesel pushers between 30-40k.

im looking for a motorhome. but no bigger than 30ft. and alot smaller budget than yours
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Many gas motorhomes can haul 10K but the trailer hitch needs beefing up. This setup was right at the CGVW of 26,000#. 32' with 20' enclosed behind it.




The downside I see to the truck camper is long term tight living quarters.
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the pickup camper is a no. we will be living in this thing 6-12 months a year. i would have no issue with it but i have a feeling she would last about a month before completely freaking out the problem with the motorhome that i see is the ability to haul a 4,000ish pound buggy, 3,000ish pound car and a harley softtail. i dont know if that is doable or not. looking on cl i have seen alot of nice motorhomes for around the 50k mark. the setup tonka toy has seems to make sense the more i think about it.
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tonka toy,

how long is your camper, toyota trailer and overall length of the whole rig? if i remember correctly you are pretty close to the 75' mark.
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Not sure where you will be working but make sure you look in to the laws before you just go buy/put together a set up like mine there are states that will not allow you to pull doubles and there are other states that are longer then Michigan and some shorter then Michigan. One that comes to mind it Mississippi allows 99' total length but you can't leave Mississippi because no other state allows that length.

The length is from the farthest point forward of the tow rig (on my super duty it's the tow hooks) to the farthest point of the last trailer (could be your rig) it's not the back of the trailer. I got questioned about my boat because the outboard was over the 65' before the state changed the law.
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The way I set in that pic I'm 64' 9 1/2" to the back of the Toyota

Camper 28'
Trailer is 16.5' from ball to tail (14' deck)
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The way I set in that pic I'm 64' 9 1/2" to the back of the Toyota

Camper 28'
Trailer is 16.5' from ball to tail (14' deck)
I like your setup and for what he is doing, it makes a lot of sense. Have you had it in the mountains?
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Motor home and enclosed.
Watch racingjunk.com therrs a lot of really good deals on there.
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No I have not had it out of Michigan yet but it's not any heavier then pulling this set you and the truck had no problems

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i looked at some of the bus conversions like route55 suggested which i really like except for not having slideouts. i just feel like that would get cramped in a hurry. i guess i need to check out other state laws for maximum length. is there any easier way than checking state by state? it is sounding like after i get done in colorado in augustish there is a good chance i will end up in ohio for 9 months to a year. i am hoping to get a break for 3-4 months inbetween jobs so i can bust ass and get my buggy done or atleast get it close enough that i can drop it off at rocksolid and have them get it done for me.
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I don't remember what the site was but if you just search recreational double lengths you should be able to find something. I do remember that a good rule of thumb is if you go east of I75 the lengths get shorter or you can't pull them in some states and if you go west it stays the same or gets longer with the exception of Oregon, where you can't pull doubles
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Why not do the motor home and enclosed trailer and then just buy a small car where you go, and then sell it a year later when you move again.
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I don't remember what the site was but if you just search recreational double lengths you should be able to find something. I do remember that a good rule of thumb is if you go east of I75 the lengths get shorter or you can't pull them in some states and if you go west it stays the same or gets longer with the exception of Oregon, where you can't pull doubles
well that would be a pretty favorable rule of thumb for me. in the 11 years i have worked for this company, michigan and ohio are the furthest east i have ever worked.
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