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Old February 10th, 2013, 07:23 PM   #41
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Old February 10th, 2013, 09:11 PM   #42
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A county road requires a sos registration.
Just because you don't get flack for it doesn't make it legal.
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Old February 10th, 2013, 09:24 PM   #43
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A county road requires a sos registration.
Just because you don't get flack for it doesn't make it legal.
According to the residents in the UP your legal to ride any road(with ORV) as long as its not an interstate or M road.
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Old February 10th, 2013, 09:31 PM   #44
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A county road requires a sos registration.
Just because you don't get flack for it doesn't make it legal.
So what about all the counties that allow travel on the shoulders of the roads to ohv's?
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Old February 10th, 2013, 10:04 PM   #45
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So what about all the counties that allow travel on the shoulders of the roads to ohv's?
When we rented one in the UP the dealer as far as you could drive driving on state or county roads were legal. Federally funded highways are not allowed .
The cabin we rented for a week was across from a gas station . All week every time I looked a quad , bike , buggy or minibike something was at the pumps.
If the state really wanted more revenue they would open up the whole state.
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Old February 10th, 2013, 10:10 PM   #46
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When we rented one in the UP the dealer as far as you could drive driving on state or county roads were legal. Federally funded highways are not allowed .
The cabin we rented for a week was across from a gas station . All week every time I looked a quad , bike , buggy or minibike something was at the pumps.
If the state really wanted more revenue they would open up the whole state.
I already knew the answer to my question. Almost all northern counties in the lower penn. are open to shoulder traffic on secondary roads for ohv's, and obviously most in the u.p.
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Old February 10th, 2013, 10:31 PM   #47
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A county road requires a sos registration.
Just because you don't get flack for it doesn't make it legal.
You must really be against people having rzrs. You have posted two false statements. You said it's super hard to get it street legal, not true. You also stated you can't drive them on roads as orvs, false again. What is your vendetta with rzrs?
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Old February 10th, 2013, 11:13 PM   #48
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A county road requires a sos registration.
Just because you don't get flack for it doesn't make it legal.
you are wrong if it is a open township or county. once you get into the trail is were you run into issues in the lower.the u.p. is completely different.
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Old February 10th, 2013, 11:16 PM   #49
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i drive my buggy from my house to ruby creek.all those townships are open to orv use.so if its a orv vehicle with a orv sticker you can drive any county road that is open.the u.p. everything is open unless posted closed.different then the lower.
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mixed traffic trail like they have in baldwin is open also.
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Old February 11th, 2013, 05:19 AM   #51
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The residents said
The dealer said
This one time some guy told me
Read the rules.
Shoulder travel isnt "road" travel and not a single person mentioned shoulder.
I dont have anything against anyone owning a RZR, I shared our experience with the dealership and our battle to register it as street legal.
...So this crap DOES happen.
Know the rules and dont take some cashier at the gas station the hiljack locals or the dealers word as gosple. Find printed DNR or NFS literature. Read it, understand it and have fun out there.
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Old February 11th, 2013, 05:56 AM   #52
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While youre collecting literature, dont forget to get something from each county you intend to wheel in.
Live2mx used some very important key words in his post.
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Old February 11th, 2013, 06:10 AM   #53
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Liv2mx the up laws are the exact same as the lower. Closed unless posted open. They're just enforced differently.
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another vote for Nelson's
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The residents said
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This one time some guy told me
Read the rules.
Shoulder travel isnt "road" travel and not a single person mentioned shoulder.
I dont have anything against anyone owning a RZR, I shared our experience with the dealership and our battle to register it as street legal.
...So this crap DOES happen.
Know the rules and dont take some cashier at the gas station the hiljack locals or the dealers word as gosple. Find printed DNR or NFS literature. Read it, understand it and have fun out there.
You might as well mention the speed limit rules and dusk to dawn rule .
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You might as well mention the speed limit rules and dusk to dawn rule .
Do it your way, but don't cry when you're in court or there isn't anywhere for any of us to wheel anything.
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Old February 11th, 2013, 10:07 AM   #57
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Liv2mx the up laws are the exact same as the lower. Closed unless posted open. They're just enforced differently.
I stopped to the DNR office up there and they told me different.maybe trail fanatic can chime in. Things are definetly enforced differently up there.
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Yes the law says for the open townships you must stay on the right side of the road.they do not want you on the shoulder though.tears up the road.
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I stopped to the DNR office up there and they told me different.maybe trail fanatic can chime in. Things are definetly enforced differently up there.
That's surprising, I used to work with the DNR to trail rides/clean-ups in the marquette area and was always told the rule is statewide closed unless posted open, and as mentioned a bit differently enforced in the UP just due to the sheer number of county roads, snowmobile trails and two tracks that would need to be enforced...and are on public lands.
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Dont let anyone tell you that your RZR will be a breeze to street legal.
It is not always the case. Many SOS's will require you to retitle it and have a new vin number assigned (assembled truck.)
Forcing you to pay out the wazoo and to deal with the state. Not to mention having to carry full coverage insurance if you have a loan on it.
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It is a breeze to make street legal, the problem is people at the SOS don't know what the hell they are doing, so if you get a hard time at one, pack it up and head to the next. The law changed about geting a new VIN. When I did mine you had to get a new VIN, when trailrail did his and few months later they were able to use the stock VIN. It will have to be retitled either way. And lets say they do make you get a new VIN, that wasn't a big deal. The lady from the State met me at my work, put the sticker on and handed me my new title. It took all of four minutes. Total cost for the paperwork was cheap, like $15 if I remember. The only thing I had to pay for was a title fee.
Yea, new VIN or old VIN the process is not much difference in price.

The hardest part of getting one street legal is wiring the lights. The SOS part is easy.
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