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Old January 29th, 2013, 12:45 AM   #1
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Looking to tow two TJ's on a 20ft trailer (assuming the load balances out well). Trailer has a heavy duty 2 5/16ths ball hitch and I believe has a 14,000lb gvw. Tow rig is an '02 f250 superduty w/ a 7.3. My understanding is the truck is rated to tow 12,500 conventionally. Two jeeps at 4,000, plus trailer at about 3,000 or less keeps us under that. Making a 3 hour trip here in Michigan,. Is this too big a load for the truck? Mostly concerned about tongue weight and trailer stability, does not have a load distributing hitch. If this were a gooseneck, I wouldn't worry. Those of you who tow loads regularly let me know your thoughts. Thank you.
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Old January 29th, 2013, 05:08 AM   #2
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I personally wouldn't worry about it a bit. I've pulled a lot more with that truck than 2 tjs.
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Old January 29th, 2013, 05:20 AM   #3
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Just drive like you have 2 tjs on the back rather than a sports car and you will be fine
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Old January 29th, 2013, 06:00 AM   #4
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I don't think you will get two tjs on a 20' trailer.
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Old January 29th, 2013, 06:08 AM   #5
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I don't think you will get two tjs on a 20' trailer.
x2 Bumper to bumper in stock form your going to be at about 25'.

Unless you plan on stacking.
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Old January 29th, 2013, 07:07 AM   #6
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I don't think you will get two tjs on a 20' trailer.
That's what I throught when first read this. I have 30ft & pull 2 rigs.
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Old January 29th, 2013, 08:33 AM   #7
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I was thinkin about that as well, the trailer may be longer than 20', I know we can fit two tractors on it at work, I've never measured the thing, just assumed. If it works to fit both, great, if not, no big deal.
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if they will fit you will have no issues pulling two rigs on a bumper pull behind a 7.3 superduty.

Depending on which rear springs you have you may want a load distributing hitch, but otherwise you should be fine.
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Old January 29th, 2013, 10:21 AM   #9
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Ya id say with a 24' trailer making them fit would be as tight as spandex. If the trailer is big enough you will be fine just mount the first one backwards so tongue weight isn't too high. Otherwise without airbags or a load distribution hitch it will sag and tow like shit. Just be careful and you will be fine also hopefully the trailer has brakes
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Ya id say with a 24' trailer making them fit would be as tight as spandex. If the trailer is big enough you will be fine just mount the first one backwards so tongue weight isn't too high. Otherwise without airbags or a load distribution hitch it will sag and tow like shit. Just be careful and you will be fine also hopefully the trailer has brakes
You're retarded.

We used a 22 or 24' trailer to tow a shannon campbell buggy (Kaiser42's) and my yj on 36's with a bumper pull down to the badlands behind his duramax. We had no sagging issues at all.

I am certain his buggy weighed as much as a typical TJ.

My F350 had an add a leaf or two (or 4 ) and I never had sagging issues on any load.

An F250 shouldn't have major sagging issues with the stock springs.
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You're retarded.

We used a 22 or 24' trailer to tow a shannon campbell buggy (Kaiser42's) and my yj on 36's with a bumper pull down to the badlands behind his duramax. We had no sagging issues at all.

I am certain his buggy weighed as much as a typical TJ.

My F350 had an add a leaf or two (or 4 ) and I never had sagging issues on any load.

An F250 shouldn't have major sagging issues with the stock springs.
It can also depend on where the axles are in the trailer. Buddy of mine has a double axle 20' trailer with the axles pretty far towards the rear of the trailer. One TJ could make a 3/4 truck sag with it pulled too far forward!
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It can also depend on where the axles are in the trailer. Buddy of mine has a double axle 20' trailer with the axles pretty far towards the rear of the trailer. One TJ could make a 3/4 truck sag with it pulled too far forward!
yeah, until you load the other tj on the BACK of the trailer.
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yeah, until you load the other tj on the BACK of the trailer.
Which would be right over the axles so it wouldnt help very much at all!
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Old January 29th, 2013, 04:23 PM   #15
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Which would be right over the axles so it wouldnt help very much at all!
The motor would be over the axles but the rest of the jeep would be behind the axles.
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Checked out the trailer today, it is only 20', so I think we will be towing just one rig and driving the other. Thanks for the input all.
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Which would be right over the axles so it wouldnt help very much at all!
do me a favor, next time you put two jeeps on a bumper pull trailer, pull the first one all the way to the front, then load the second, take a picture, then move the second jeep 3" forward, and then 6" backwards. Take pictures of each please. I'd like to see that the jeep being "right over the axle" has zero input on the amount of tongue weight the truck sees.

1st, it wouldn't take but a few inches of both jeeps moving to correct tongue weight.

2nd, we aren't talking about a half ton with 3 leaf springs and an overload leaf.
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do me a favor, next time you put two jeeps on a bumper pull trailer, pull the first one all the way to the front, then load the second, take a picture, then move the second jeep 3" forward, and then 6" backwards. Take pictures of each please. I'd like to see that the jeep being "right over the axle" has zero input on the amount of tongue weight the truck sees.

1st, it wouldn't take but a few inches of both jeeps moving to correct tongue weight.

2nd, we aren't talking about a half ton with 3 leaf springs and an overload leaf.
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I don't think you will get two tjs on a 20' trailer.
for sure too long!
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IF you have a trailer like this, then you could balance it pretty well.





If your trailer has the wheels pushed towards the back like this, then you could have a hard time getting the tongue weight.






A lot of heavier bumper pull trailers were designed to be hitched up behind stout work trucks or medium duty trucks, they tend to push their axles a lot farther back. Have seen ones that were originally designed as goosenecks and then converted to bumper pulls.

You also might end up over the GVWR on the truck to get enough tongue weight. So, say you have your 11,000 trailer, the old 15% tonque weight puts 1650 lbs of weight on the truck, plus the truck, your gear, occupants, etc.

That said, I've seen many people pull doubles with just a 3/4 ton. With the bumperpull, its just all in the balance of the trailer. A WD hitch might be a good investment. I have pulled as much as 27k lbs on a bumperpull (pintle hook) with a 1 ton dually work truck, but the trailer was well balanced.
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