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Old December 6th, 2016, 11:54 PM   #1
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Back in the spring, I bought a 1998 K2500 to replace my old tow rigs, a 2012 gasser and 2007 diesel Ram's. i used ot phaul vehicles, flip, and part them out, even owned a small car lot at one point. Now I only haul my own junk around, so I hoped to get out from under these trucks that were bigger than I needed, and out from under the payment on the 12.

So enter Pigpen, the 8600 GVRW 2500 I picked up for 800 bucks. I threw a cheap paintjob on it, had the transmission built, did a tune up, etc, and drove it around.





It was all sweet, until I hooked a Uhaul car hauler to it and towed my new RZR XP Turbo about. A 1500 lb trailer with a 1500 lb load on it, taxed the 350 more than I was comfortable with. It also wasn't very comfy for me over long distances at 6'5".

But, I clung to it, I love my Pigpen truck. I told my GF and her mom, I'd love to buy a newer, nicer truck, if only I could find one that wasn't rotted away and whooped to hell for under 7500 bucks.

Well, turns out her father's business had a couple trucks they were selling. A 2002 HD CCLB with 209,000, the 8.1L/Allison trans/4.10 gear combo, and a 2003 ECLB Duramax with 270k on it. The Duramax had been beat up more than a teenaged girls hoohah in the trailer park at the end of summer break, but the CC was pretty nice, having been repainted in 15 because a freezer rolled into it. So a little financial trickery, and I'm the new owner of a enormous gas sucking truck.

It's an LT, so it's fully loaded, leather, heated, etc. The thing tows like a dream, the Allison works great. It's honestly the best truck I've ever owned. It could use a tune up and some maintenance items, I'm having my 285's from my other truck swapped on this Friday, and we'll go from there.





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What happened to getting out from under your big trucks? Crazy 3k felt like a lot for you. I've hauled near 10k with my 99 2500 with the 5.3 and it does just fine. That being said the truck looks great
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What happened to getting out from under your big trucks? Crazy 3k felt like a lot for you. I've hauled near 10k with my 99 2500 with the 5.3 and it does just fine. That being said the truck looks great
I did get out from under them, no more maintenance on the Cummins, and no more giant payment on the 12.

I suppose it's all relative, I meet lots of people who say they tow with their insert tiny engine here and it worked great. With the 350, I had to leave it in 3rd. Which limited me to about 60 mph. Any kind of steep hill, you'd hit the bottom at 60, kick into second halfway up, and be winding 4500 rpm doing 40 at the top.

The 8.1, didn't even unlock the converter with the cruise on heading down 75/127 from Gaylord with the 6x14 enclosed trailer pictured. My 350 couldn't have done that, or my 5.7 Ram. My 6.7 would have though.
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I did get out from under them, no more maintenance on the Cummins, and no more giant payment on the 12.

I suppose it's all relative, I meet lots of people who say they tow with their insert tiny engine here and it worked great. With the 350, I had to leave it in 3rd. Which limited me to about 60 mph. Any kind of steep hill, you'd hit the bottom at 60, kick into second halfway up, and be winding 4500 rpm doing 40 at the top.

The 8.1, didn't even unlock the converter with the cruise on heading down 75/127 from Gaylord with the 6x14 enclosed trailer pictured. My 350 couldn't have done that, or my 5.7 Ram. My 6.7 would have though.
Sounds like a great purchase then. Not to mention saving on the monthly payments
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I assume they seapped the front clip when it got painted? How big of a freezer lol
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I assume they seapped the front clip when it got painted? How big of a freezer lol
Correct, the owner said he wanted factory parts and a newer looking truck, so cateye's it is. I have no idea how big the freezer was, bigger than the one in my house I would imagine, it's a large chicken factory farm lol.
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Clifford's Birth Certificate,

http://www.compnine.com/mycar.php?id...9e03021f2dd1cc





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We average 11mpg with our '03 ecsb with the same combination you have, and 8 with a 30' gooseneck with a full-size on it.

I liked the Allison so much, I'm mid way putting a six speed 1000 behind the Cummins in my other Chevy.

If you got it for around 7500 I'd say you scored!
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I really like the truck, it has some issues, but power isn't one lol.

I'm not getting nearly that good of mileage, one of the issues, but I'll get it sorted sometime after the holidays.

I did get my 285's on,

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So, my 4x4 hasn't worked since I bought the stupid truck. Replaced the actuator without even really checking, because, why not right?

Not the problem. So, I started looking at the front axle. Bought a new slider and shift fork, along with all the washers and seal, and rebuilt that side of the front end.









During all that, I found time to cook a PYO in Black Wrinkle from Prismatic POwders, turned out pretty nice,



So now my front axle engages properly, nothing was broken, but it was all pretty worn. But, my front driveshaft isn't turning now, and I swear it was before. So I guess I'll wait the winter out and get the Tcase out for a rebuild.

I also found a ton of slop in the passenger side, either the inner tie rod or idler arm, so the hit's keep on coming.
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So, my 4x4 hasn't worked since I bought the stupid truck. Replaced the actuator without even really checking, because, why not right?

Not the problem. So, I started looking at the front axle. Bought a new slider and shift fork, along with all the washers and seal, and rebuilt that side of the front end.









During all that, I found time to cook a PYO in Black Wrinkle from Prismatic POwders, turned out pretty nice,



So now my front axle engages properly, nothing was broken, but it was all pretty worn. But, my front driveshaft isn't turning now, and I swear it was before. So I guess I'll wait the winter out and get the Tcase out for a rebuild.

I also found a ton of slop in the passenger side, either the inner tie rod or idler arm, so the hit's keep on coming.


Probably the notorious idler/pitman arm
I hate doing the pitman arm because you have to unbolt the box to get a pulled on the arm
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Probably the notorious idler/pitman arm
I hate doing the pitman arm because you have to unbolt the box to get a pulled on the arm
I'm pretty sure it's in the Idle arm or bracket for it. It was late yesterday and I was pissed and out of money anyway, not to mention it was getting dark so my driveway shop was closing lol.

I suppose it could be the wheel bearing too, I suppose I'll find out this weekend.
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