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Old March 6th, 2013, 12:26 PM   #1
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Planning on new steering stabilizer, track bar, and maybe tire balance?

What should I go with for a track bar?

Fiance finally pestered me enough to do the lift (3" rusty coils and springs, jk front shocks, s10 rear shocks, had south Kent do my alignment). She called me today and said there is bad wobble now at 55-60.

Planning on going over later today, checking tire pressure and going for a test drive. The tires are getting old, I don't want to put money in them since we are planning on new ones later this year.

Anything else I can do or check for cheap?
Ball joints and tre's seem to be alright.
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have someone steer the wheel back and forth with u under it. look for play at any connection.
it commonly can be track bar. loose steering box. check unit bearings. check drag link.
look at control arm bushings too. make sure all bolts/nuts are tight.

if you had access to a go pro, i would film the suspension as u drive.

is there a steering stabilizer on it? how old is it?

alot of times it is very small amounts of play, at multiple locations working together.
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alot of times it is very small amounts of play, at multiple locations working together.
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Took for a test drive. Only happens on bumps. Didn't notice much play, if any, in steering.

I do hear a popping clunk on elevation changes...

Probably just going to do stabilizer until I have more money and funds to fix it properly.
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Took for a test drive. Only happens on bumps. Didn't notice much play, if any, in steering.

I do hear a popping clunk on elevation changes...

Probably just going to do stabilizer until I have more money and funds to fix it properly.
Have your woman steer it back and forth while you look. You will see whats moving but something is if your getting a popping and clunking. Stablizer isnt going to do much if your not fixing the problem IMO.
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I've had DW from old tires and from an elongated track bar mounting hole.
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Sounds like a track bar to me my tj had deathwobble on bumps and the hole in the track bar bracket was ovaled out

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Post a pic of your steering and track bar angles.
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Have your woman steer it back and forth while you look. You will see whats moving.
I did. No pops or clunks.
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Post a pic of your steering and track bar angles.
I will once I finish eating.
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Pics. Alignment was done to fix toe in.

I can get better ones on Saturday when I make the bumper.
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Sounds like a track bar to me my tj had deathwobble on bumps and the hole in the track bar bracket was ovaled out

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You mean it was ovulated. Hehehe.
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Found a few write ups on relocating track bar. I'll do this this weekend. I have a stabilizer floating around that I'll throw on too.

I'll report back.
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Hey jake.
I have never found a steering stab to be anything more then a bandaid. If you buy one dont put it on untill you fix you problem or you will just be masking it.imo

If you are hearing a clunk look at balljoints and tracbar mounting bolt. Do some slow donuts in a parking lot and see if you feel the ball joints roll over. Do them in both directions and see if you feel something different. Sometimes you can actually feel the balljoints flop over when they move.
Usually dw is coming from the tracbar/ steering box in all of the jeeps I have repaired.
I start buy either drilling a new tracbar mounting hole in the axle or welding the original shut, and redrilling. I weld a fat washer on both sides of the hole because the sheet metal is so thin it eggs out easily. I then ream the hole out to where I have to tap the bolt in with a hammer. Keep it as tight as possible.

Make sure the bolt has a shoulder and is not threaded all the way, I have seen the threads eat away at the mounting hole like a file.

Retorque everthing. Did the jeep wobble as soon as you lifted it? Or did it apear after putting some miles on it?

I busted an axle shaft on my tj last wk and went for a scary ride. I think my tracbar fits a xj also if you want to bolt it on for a test ride. You could also bolt my tires on it to see if it corrects your problem. Good luck.
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Check out http://www.ironrockoffroad.com they make a nice track bar.

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Relocated track bar. Problem solved. Steering wheel is just off by half a rotation...

Ended up with a new track bar since nobody had the bushing in stock or were closed when I realized I needed a new bushing.

Still putting a stabilizer on in two weeks for peace of mind since I don't want to be responsible for her crashing or something.
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I busted an axle shaft on my tj last wk and went for a scary ride. I think my tracbar fits a xj also if you want to bolt it on for a test ride. You could also bolt my tires on it to see if it corrects your problem. Good luck.
Front or rear?

Edit: brain fart. Must have been rear...

Whole tire and axle come out on ya? That happened to a buddy on the road, didn't catch it in time and whole axleshaft walked out on him (bearing plate or wheel bearing broke, I can't remember)
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Front or rear?

Edit: brain fart. Must have been rear...

Whole tire and axle come out on ya? That happened to a buddy on the road, didn't catch it in time and whole axleshaft walked out on him (bearing plate or wheel bearing broke, I can't remember)
Yes it was the left rear. Some fast and furious kid was shoving me down m37 between 68th and m6. He pulled up next to me in the fast lane and kept creeping waiting for the light. I cut the light perfect, holeshotted hin by the length of my jeep. When I tacked it up and pounded second like I always do shit hit the fan.
I heard a snap and did a 180 getting a good look at my tire with over 2' of axle hooked to it. I jabbed the brakes, which did nothing and spun a 360 in the other dirrection. It almost flipped before slidding to a stop facing oncoming traffic.
I waited for traffic to clear, locked it in low loc and drove through the feild/ditch a few hundred feet to the park and ride on 60th. I retrieved my tire, thankfully it didnt hit anyone or anything.
I bought brackets to put a 8.8 in my jeep three years ago but never got around to it. My axle busted in the splines of my $400 trutrac totally destroying it. I had planned on selling the trutrac to cover the cost of gears for the front. O well, its junk now.
Im in the process of building a jig for tj rear axles right now. I will be able to put a d60,8.8,9" or d 44 in my jig and position all the brackets with out a tape messure or angle finder. I will also be able to straighten and shorten axle housings with my jig.
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