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Old January 17th, 2013, 08:12 AM   #41
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I watched the video a few day ago and it really gets you thinking. Facebook pages made before the shooting, Weird neighbour who had six kids in his house, literally no ambulances near the school. I understand that American media is so fucked up that they will reported on the slightest rumour trying to be the first to do so. This makes all these story's skewed and gives these conspiracy theorists ammo to work with.
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Old January 17th, 2013, 08:14 AM   #42
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I don't have time right now to watch the whole video, but, wasn't there some shooting, including the guy killing himself, after the police showed up? And with 26 dead of multiple gunshot wounds that is at least 52 shots, if none miss. I could easily believe he shot more than 100 times, and I doubt the person was actually counting.
The video isn't some guy sitting in front of a web cam spewing theories. It's actual news coverage footage from the day of the event- a lot of it I remember seeing when it happened and thinking later that it didn't line up with the official police news release.

I can believe some confusion, but basic things like whether just a 'few' shots were fired or hundreds don't add up if all the people were eyewitnesses.

Do I think this was a government sponsored shooting? No.

What I think is that anything from this event that does not support the left view of banning guns is being suppressed.
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Old January 17th, 2013, 08:32 AM   #43
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What I think is that anything from this event that does not support the left view of banning guns is being suppressed.
And the right is taking any misstatement made to try to discredit the lefts view.

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Old January 17th, 2013, 09:00 AM   #44
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Just watched the video that RentalRider posted. Well worth the 21 minutes! It's very interesting. Down to the kids saying they heard police officers on the roof, and 911 calls saying hundreds of shots were fired. I think in a school like that, you would know if you heard gun shots. I like the kid who knew the types of gun shots too. Really makes you think about this whole situation.
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Old January 17th, 2013, 09:17 AM   #45
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Just watched the video that RentalRider posted. Well worth the 21 minutes! It's very interesting. Down to the kids saying they heard police officers on the roof, and 911 calls saying hundreds of shots were fired. I think in a school like that, you would know if you heard gun shots. I like the kid who knew the types of gun shots too. Really makes you think about this whole situation.
yah it just don't add up
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Old January 17th, 2013, 09:19 AM   #46
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I found it interesting that one guy was led out in cuffs, later to be in the front of the cop car AND the video of the dude running for his life out the back door that got taken down by the popo. We never heard anything about that.
And wtf with the "parents"? I sure as shit wouldnt be able to go on tv anytime soon after having my kids blown away.
The whole thing stinks.
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Old January 17th, 2013, 09:33 AM   #47
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How about the picture of the family that 'lost' 'their' daughter, then come to find out she is still alive and is pictured with Obummer AFTER the shooting? I'm more confused than a cow on AstroTurf
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Old January 17th, 2013, 09:47 AM   #48
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How about the picture of the family that 'lost' 'their' daughter, then come to find out she is still alive and is pictured with Obummer AFTER the shooting? I'm more confused than a cow on AstroTurf
Or was it her sister with the same dress? After all, parents never buy matching clothes for their kids.
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Old January 17th, 2013, 10:15 AM   #49
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Or was it her sister with the same dress? After all, parents never buy matching clothes for their kids.
She must've been the hated child in the family. They were all awfully happy to have her gone.
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I don't have time to watch that long of a vid this morning. Cliffnotes?
I watched the one rentalrider posted, I'm not that impressed.

The video takes the multiple false media reports that were presented early as the story broke and presents them in comparison to the later media reports. If you take everything that the media says as fact, it creates some conflict. I personally don't have that much faith in modern journalism.
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Or was it her sister with the same dress? After all, parents never buy matching clothes for their kids.
Yeah, but I think Obie would have been all over this with the "look how brave this young girl is blah, blah, blah".
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Yeah, but I think Obie would have been all over this with the "look how brave this young girl is blah, blah, blah".
Or did no one notice? I don't buy the conspiracy theory that the shooting didn't happen. I believe there are conflicting reports, which will happen in any situation. That's why I was looking for some type of document that tells how many guns and which type were used.
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Here's where I'm going with this.

The coverage is ambiguous at best. Both sides are cherrypicking to support their agenda. Nothing new there.

Bottom line- this type of violence is not preventable.
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Or was it her sister with the same dress? After all, parents never buy matching clothes for their kids.
I refuse to. Our boys have 0 clothes that are the same. That shit looks refuckingtarded.
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My question is, shootings and tragedies happen all over the country every day. Why is it that only in sandy hooks case, they have shut down and locked the school. They have said there tearing the building down.. Why? Our schools have a large financial problem already, so now were going to build another one when its not needed? They did not tear down Virginia tec, or the Aurora theater. What is there to hide?
I'm not saying nothing happened, but something's just don't add up.
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My question is, shootings and tragedies happen all over the country every day. Why is it that only in sandy hooks case, they have shut down and locked the school. They have said there tearing the building down.. Why? Our schools have a large financial problem already, so now were going to build another one when its not needed? They did not tear down Virginia tec, or the Aurora theater. What is there to hide?
I'm not saying nothing happened, but something's just don't add up.
I am especially interested in the whole lack of kids thing. 600 students in that school and the only image that can be seen throughout the entire onslaught of press coverage is that still photo of 10 kids.
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I am especially interested in the whole lack of kids thing. 600 students in that school and the only image that can be seen throughout the entire onslaught of press coverage is that still photo of 10 kids.
I was watching the news last night and there were a lot of pics and vid of family's, kids everything running up the street. Kids lined up when parents were picking them up,

I think the footage there showing where there are no kids around is hours after the kids had all gone home. There were tarps clearly set up in the parking lot where they were staging there investigation. That would not be there right away. So I call bs on the skeptics on that.
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I was watching the news last night and there were a lot of pics and vid of family's, kids everything running up the street. Kids lined up when parents were picking them up,

I think the footage there showing where there are no kids around is hours after the kids had all gone home. There were tarps clearly set up in the parking lot where they were staging there investigation. That would not be there right away. So I call bs on the skeptics on that.
Bout time that aspect was fixed. We all know there has been a lot of manipulation of this shooting to benefit the anti-gun crowd though.
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What gets me in this is that early on it was reported that the guns used were not the shooters'. They were registered, and belonged to his mother. So, what this means, is that he STOLE the weapons that were used! So, all these "stronger gun laws" are absolutly pointless in regards to this situation. Nuts jobs that want to kill, will simply STEAL the weapons they desire!!! The media has not mentioned the origin of the guns since week one, they just ran with the "assault rifle" game plan and not looked back! F'n BS!!!!!!!!!
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The funerals, where were they held?

were their 26 funerals and 26 closed caskets?
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