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Old June 5th, 2014, 09:03 PM   #1
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Here's a good read on D day

D-Day: A never-to-be-forgotten morning, 70 years ago
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2014/...-70-years-ago/
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Everyone should visit Normandy. We must never forget.
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forget? i recently read a story where a H.S. history teacher referred to WWll
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http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2014/...-70-years-ago/
This article is American centric but it's also critical to remember the sacrifices of our allies. The atrocities of the Nazis and the overall loss of life are mind blowing.
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Ever wonder why there were no Marines at one of the largest amphibious landings in modern warfare?

Apparently, Army generals were still bitter over the Marines getting too much of the credit in major battles in France and Belgium in WWI (particularly the Battle of Chateau-Thierry). After WWI and Chateau-Thierry (and more rightfully Belleau Wood) the Germans had an acute hatred of the Marine Corps. Army brass wasn't about to let the Marines steal the headlines again, so besides training leading up to the invasion, a few advisory roles, and some counter-insurgency and reconnaissance the Marines aboard the accompanying battleships were forbidden from storming the beaches. Even when a battalion of Rangers was getting torn to shreds scaling the cliffs on Pointe du Hoc a group of Marines aboard the USS Texas who were trained in amphibious warfare and mountain warfare and who had begun gearing up were told to stand down.

One of my favorite quotes from WWII came from Patton when he was commanding the 3rd Army in the operations that followed up the landing at Normandy: "The quicker we clean up this goddamned mess, the quicker we can take a little jaunt against the purple pissing Japs and clean out their nest, too. Before the goddamned Marines get all of the credit.”

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Ever wonder why there were no Marines at one of the largest amphibious landings in modern warfare?

Apparently, Army generals were still bitter over the Marines getting too much of the credit in major battles in France and Belgium in WWI (particularly the Battle of Chateau-Thierry). After WWI and Chateau-Thierry (and more rightfully Belleau Wood) the Germans had an acute hatred of the Marine Corps. Army brass wasn't about to let the Marines steal the headlines again, so besides training leading up to the invasion, a few advisory roles, and some counter-insurgency and reconnaissance the Marines aboard the accompanying battleships were forbidden from storming the beaches. Even when a battalion of Rangers was getting torn to shreds scaling the cliffs on Pointe du Hoc a group of Marines aboard the USS Texas who were trained in amphibious warfare and mountain warfare and who had begun gearing up were told to stand down.

One of my favorite quotes from WWII came from Patton when he was commanding the 3rd Army in the operations that followed up the landing at Normandy: "The quicker we clean up this goddamned mess, the quicker we can take a little jaunt against the purple pissing Japs and clean out their nest, too. Before the goddamned Marines get all of the credit.

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Ever wonder why there were no Marines at one of the largest amphibious landings in modern warfare?

Apparently, Army generals were still bitter over the Marines getting too much of the credit in major battles in France and Belgium in WWI (particularly the Battle of Chateau-Thierry). After WWI and Chateau-Thierry (and more rightfully Belleau Wood) the Germans had an acute hatred of the Marine Corps. Army brass wasn't about to let the Marines steal the headlines again, so besides training leading up to the invasion, a few advisory roles, and some counter-insurgency and reconnaissance the Marines aboard the accompanying battleships were forbidden from storming the beaches. Even when a battalion of Rangers was getting torn to shreds scaling the cliffs on Pointe du Hoc a group of Marines aboard the USS Texas who were trained in amphibious warfare and mountain warfare and who had begun gearing up were told to stand down.

One of my favorite quotes from WWII came from Patton when he was commanding the 3rd Army in the operations that followed up the landing at Normandy: "The quicker we clean up this goddamned mess, the quicker we can take a little jaunt against the purple pissing Japs and clean out their nest, too. Before the goddamned Marines get all of the credit.”

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Stupid move on the army's part if you ask me. When you have marines specially trained in amphibious landing.
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Stupid move on the army's part if you ask me. When you have marines specially trained in amphibious landing.
The assault was planned in stages, and there were still additional ranger battalions waiting to engage, but the signals were late.

Point du hoc wasn't quite an amphibious landing in the normal sense. More like get out of the boat and climb straight up a rope ladder.

The Texas was stationed several miles off the point, laying down fire from the 14" guns before the assault, until they closed to fire on Omaha.

FWIW, the Marines on the Texas decided to start putting together volunteers, based on what they were seeing/hearing. In their own words, 28 months of seasgoing duty wasn't proper conditioning for making that assault and it was probably a good idea that they didn't go in. Those marines were mainly doing anti aircraft duty. There were already the other rangers specifically trained by the british commandos and equipped for the cliff assault. They also did not engage and were deployed at Omaha. It wasn't a snub at the marines.

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My one regret from living in Europe for 18 months was not making it over to Normandy. Saw a number of other historic sites, but I never made it there.
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I've never really enjoyed traveling overseas but I hear that touring Normandy is one of the most moving things you will ever experience. To this day the locals thank American tourists.
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