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Old January 16th, 2013, 08:53 AM   #161
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Here, i'll just leave the original quote here for you to ponder. You don't read that as rental rider saying that he is willing to kill the person who comes to take his weapons? I sure see that......


At least whiterhino is smart enough to see what I was saying, the rest of you are just way too easily worked up.

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I get what you are saying and I did from the start. It is just how you are doing it sounds like you are a hippy liberal soccer mom.
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I get what you are saying and I did from the start. It is just how you are doing it sounds like you are a hippy liberal soccer mom.


Please cite examples of said hippy liberal soccer mom-ness.....

I'm simply saying that all these retards who think they are gonna gun fight it out to the death when 2 or 3 or 15 armed LEO's or military personnell show up to take their guns are fucking redneck I'm a badass retarded computer pecking fucktards....

I don't want to give my guns up anymore than anyone else, but I'm rational enough to realize that "if" it comes to a door to door collection I'm not going out in a blaze of glory screaming murrica fukc yeah while my wife, children, and dog watch me get slaughtered by the guys who are outnumbering and out "gunning" me ....
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Kickstand is right, not many people are going to start a Waco style shootout. Why? Because most gun owners are law abiding citizens. I strongly support the 2nd amendment but if there was ever a gun ban and they came knocking/kicking down my door I would hand them over. Why? Because I have a family in the house. I am no good to my family in jail or dead. Either way they will get the guns. Besides when they approach your house you will be outnumbered and outgunned.

As far as defending yourself in your house yes there may be other ways. A bat, a frying pan, or a lamp. But a gun gives you the best odds. If a guy breaks in and a woman is home alone her odds of fighting off the guy are low and introduce a second intruder her odds are even lower. However put a gun in her hand and she has a chance.

That break in that occurred in Georgia where the woman shot the guy 5 times - lets take that gun out of her hands and give her something else, like a taser. The intruder breaks in with a crow bar. She is hiding in the closet with a taser. In a situation of a woman with a taser v a guy with a crowbar I give this one to the guy with a crowbar.
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Kickstand is right, not many people are going to start a Waco style shootout. Why? Because most gun owners are law abiding citizens. I strongly support the 2nd amendment but if there was ever a gun ban and they came knocking/kicking down my door I would hand them over. Why? Because I have a family in the house. I am no good to my family in jail or dead. Either way they will get the guns. Besides when they approach your house you will be outnumbered and outgunned.

As far as defending yourself in your house yes there may be other ways. A bat, a frying pan, or a lamp. But a gun gives you the best odds. If a guy breaks in and a woman is home alone her odds of fighting off the guy are low and introduce a second intruder her odds are even lower. However put a gun in her hand and she has a chance.

That break in that occurred in Georgia where the woman shot the guy 5 times - lets take that gun out of her hands and give her something else, like a taser. The intruder breaks in with a crow bar. She is hiding in the closet with a taser. In a situation of a woman with a taser v a guy with a crowbar I give this one to the guy with a crowbar.
I agree on all accounts. Let's just remember, she has to HAVE THE GUN on her person or closer to her than to the intruder for it to do her any good. Just having it isn't the get out of jail free card.

Oh, and you're a liberal hippy soccer mom prius driving pussy for abiding by the laws and giving up your guns even if you are outmanned and outgunned.
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This.

Sitting at home and having 15 armed LEO's / MP's arrive at your door will not give you the chance to shoot it out with them. You have lost before you get off the couch. Grab your gun to force them to leave and all you've done is become a martyr and left a widow behind.

A militia............ that's another story that has merit. But who are you going to fight if they do it the way they did in the UK, or what's happening in New York?

Look at New York's new law. You have a year to sell your guns. So, 15 months from now you use your 13 shot Glock to defend your home. They found you, one by one and you go to jail. It becomes a hopeless way to fight the law. As long as they can single out people one by one, they will make progress.
You have a year to sell your high capacity mags out of state. Having more than seven rounds loaded into a magazine will be a misdemeanor.
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Old January 16th, 2013, 09:19 AM   #166
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Fuck you! KickStand is a stand up guy and you should be HONORED that he even took the time to respond to any of you! This man is obviously operating on a much higher plane of thought compared to the rest of us and you should be god damned ashamed for trying to diminish any piece of knowledge he imparts on us.

Fucking unbelievable. Buncha assholes.
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hahahahaha I'd be willing to bet big money you wouldn't even come close to backing up your internet shit talk.

Kill a dude to keep your gun, until the next wave comes and takes it from you and then imprisons you while you leave your wife and daughter behind to fend for themselves?

hahahahahaha cheifwoohaw the big time shit talker
No, they understand that I'll shoot them before they take me. I am willing to die for the rights the Founding Fathers gaurenteed me. I take that very seriously. Apparently more seriously then most.

Just keep in line sheep.
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You have a year to sell your high capacity mags out of state. Having more than seven rounds loaded into a magazine will be a misdemeanor.
I fear this is "for now". A second or third offense will be worse. The bigger problem is that it will be used against you for any future purchase or gun permits.

Also, does this mean I can keep my 13 round or 30 round Pmag magazine as long as it has no more than 7 rounds loaded into it?
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No, they understand that I'll shoot them before they take me. I am willing to die for the rights the Founding Fathers gaurenteed me. I take that very seriously. Apparently more seriously then most.

Just keep in line sheep.
If you're going to die for your country, do it smart. Not just standing in your door in your skivvies waving a gun at a bunch of trained, well armed LEO's.

Do you really want to leave your family behind because you wanted to be a hero? You would serve your family and country a lot more to "not have any guns in the house" and then go join a militia or find another way.
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If you're going to die for your country, do it smart. Not just standing in your door in your skivvies waving a gun at a bunch of trained, well armed LEO's.

Do you really want to leave your family behind because you wanted to be a hero? You would serve your family and country a lot more to "not have any guns in the house" and then go join a militia or find another way.
That is your opinion. If they knew that when they come to collect guns there will be in a fight each and everytime I, as many others, believe that it will help the cause.

300+million strong. And I have no respect for "bunch of trained, well armed LEOs" that take away the rights of its citizens.

Will I be a fool just walk out my door and start shooting while wearing my skivvies? Is that what you see? Sadly mistaken if that is the image you are protrying on proud americans who are willing to stand for their rights.

I will resist and if it comes to a shoot out to keep my guns then so be it. I would hope you say the same.
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That is your opinion. If they knew that when they come to collect guns there will be in a fight each and everytime I, as many others, believe that it will help the cause.

300+million strong. And I have no respect for "bunch of trained, well armed LEOs" that take away the rights of its citizens.

Will I be a fool just walk out my door and start shooting while wearing my skivvies? Is that what you see? Sadly mistaken if that is the image you are protrying on proud americans who are willing to stand for their rights.

I will resist and if it comes to a shoot out to keep my guns then so be it. I would hope you say the same.
It is completely within our rights to do this exact thing if an agent of the government is trying to enforce an unconstitutional law on the citizens. That is the ENTIRE point of the 2nd Amendment.

Anyone else here who doesn't think that defending the Constitution (especially the veterans on this board) with their life is worth it... Get the fukc out. Now.
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If you're going to die for your country, do it smart. Not just standing in your door in your skivvies waving a gun at a bunch of trained, well armed LEO's.

Do you really want to leave your family behind because you wanted to be a hero? You would serve your family and country a lot more to "not have any guns in the house" and then go join a militia or find another way.
Im typing on a phone so this will be brief but this is possibly the first subject ive completely disagreed with u on rhino. First they arent law abiding citizens that will be coming to my door. They will be thugs with a badge of some sort (i doubt leo). Think of russia. Also think of how texas is making laws to stop this atrocity from unfolding. However i doubt their general population would be yellow like ours. Oh and my family will be safe. How many business men will need to die protecting their rights before they would call the bs off? You "men" simply amaze me at times.
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It is completely within our rights to do this exact thing if an agent of the government is trying to enforce an unconstitutional law on the citizens. That is the ENTIRE point of the 2nd Amendment.

Anyone else here who doesn't think that defending the Constitution (especially the veterans on this board) with their life is worth it... Get the fukc out. Now.
You would risk the life of your wife and family? You obviously do not have children. You would never participate in a shoot out with your family inside your house.

An organized militia where a group of like minded individuals may be different when you take the fight away from your house.
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Im typing on a phone so this will be brief but this is possibly the first subject ive completely disagreed with u on rhino. First they arent law abiding citizens that will be coming to my door. They will be thugs with a badge of some sort (i doubt leo). Think of russia. Also think of how texas is making laws to stop this atrocity from unfolding. However i doubt their general population would be yellow like ours. Oh and my family will be safe. How many business men will need to die protecting their rights before they would call the bs off? You "men" simply amaze me at times.
They will be LEO's just like Katrina in 2008. They will be well versed in taking your guns.
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I will resist and if it comes to a shoot out to keep my guns then so be it. I would hope you say the same.
Riiiiight, you're willing to start a shoot out while your wife and daughter are in your home?

You're more badass then I ever thought
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You would risk the life of your wife and family? You obviously do not have children. You would never participate in a shoot out with your family inside your house.

An organized militia where a group of like minded individuals may be different when you take the fight away from your house.
Better then watching then raped once they are taken. Don't you love your family enough to do something?? You obviously don't have a wife or kids.

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Riiiiight, you're willing to start a shoot out while your wife and daughter are in your home?

You're more badass then I ever thought
Yes, they will be in the safe room. Its call planning for the worse.
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It is completely within our rights to do this exact thing if an agent of the government is trying to enforce an unconstitutional law on the citizens. That is the ENTIRE point of the 2nd Amendment.

Anyone else here who doesn't think that defending the Constitution (especially the veterans on this board) with their life is worth it... Get the fukc out. Now.
The problem is it will no longer be within your rights. Organize and fight the bullshit now.

Start shoot out with organized militia? I'll buy your tough guy ness.

Start shoot out while your wife and kid is in the other room? Bullshit.
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You would risk the life of your wife and family? You obviously do not have children. You would never participate in a shoot out with your family inside your house.

An organized militia where a group of like minded individuals may be different when you take the fight away from your house.
If there were any real organized militias we could join it would give the entire 2A community a hell of a lot more ground to stand on.

I don't have children. My wife will be right at my side with her own weapons. She isn't willing to give up her constitutional rights to an out of control government either.
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The problem is it will no longer be within your rights. Organize and fight the bullshit now.

Start shoot out with organized militia? I'll buy your tough guy ness.

Start shoot out while your wife and kid is in the other room? Bullshit.
This isn't about who has a bigger e-dick like you want to make it out to be Kickstand.

If we all went by your plan the time to stand up and defend ourselves will be AFTER we've been disarmed.

Good luck using your assault rocks and sticks.
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This isn't about who has a bigger e-dick like you want to make it out to be Kickstand.

If we all went by your plan the time to stand up and defend ourselves will be AFTER we've been disarmed.

Good luck using your assault rocks and sticks.
No dumbass, the time to plan to defend yourself and organize and fight these gun bans is yesterday.

I'm not tryint o make this out into who has a bigger e-dick, the point is half of you are talking out of your e-dicks and making gun owners look like a bunch of damn fools.
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